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Val

Submitted Darksbane , Aug 07 2010 10:37 PM | Last updated Jun 10 2013 03:25 AM

Val

Type: Character House: Neutral
Cost: 2 Strength: 1 Icons: Intrigue, Power
Game Text:
Restricted
Wildling
Any Phase: Reveal and draw the top card of your deck. Play that card as your next response or action, if able. Otherwise, discard it.
Flavor Text: "Gods," Val whispered, "gods, why are they doing this?"
Number: 117 Set: RotO
Quantity: 1 Illustrator: Marco Caradonna

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23 Comments

Track11

Sep 13 2011 09:53 PM

Am I right in saying that you would use this effect in the marshalling phase and hope for a character or location you could afford? Then rinse/repeat and gamble every now and then for an event?

sWhiteboy

Sep 14 2011 05:33 AM

For the most part. I don't think you would try for an Event unless it meant winning/losing the game. Val's good in decks with plenty of duplicates, because they can be played for free.

SpiderMonkey

Dec 07 2011 04:10 PM

You would still have to pay the cost for the character, right?

cupcakewinterfell

Dec 09 2011 03:17 AM

I kinda like using her just to mill my deck… maybe that's a stupid idea now and again, but if i'm stuck with nothing else I want/can play, or am looking for a cost reducing location, she can be pretty great.

Archrono

Apr 19 2012 01:23 AM

How does she work with shadows cards? Do you have to put them into shadows? (If you can pay the 2 gold of course.)
Or do you reveal them (due to her ability,) then play like anything else?

Staton

Apr 19 2012 02:34 AM

You have to put them into shadows by paying two gold.

sWhiteboy

Apr 19 2012 06:40 AM

Yous till have to reveal them before you put them into shadows.

sWhiteboy

Apr 19 2012 06:40 AM

Yous till have to reveal them before you put them into shadows.

Laxen

Jun 24 2012 09:22 AM

Why isn't Val found when searching for "val" in the card search?

Reager

Jun 24 2012 09:52 AM

you need to uncheck the full text search option in order to search for words of 3 letters or lower

Laxen

Jun 24 2012 11:51 AM

Oh. Didn't know it was a number-of-letters limit to it. Thanks.

Kennit

Aug 01 2012 09:16 AM

1) If you use her ability to play a card as an action during the marshalling phase you still have to pay for it or am I wrong?
2) To use her ability wisely you should know what cards are on top of your deck, I guess. So what combos are worth considering?
3) Why is this card restricted?

Laxen

Aug 01 2012 09:22 AM

Yes, you must still pay to play the card

A common combo is with The Laughing Storm (GotC) to let you keep the card in your hand, even if you can't or don't want to play it, allowing you to max your draw cap very easily each round.

She's restricted because (I believe) provides an amazing card engine by her self - Allowing you to draw 3 additional cards each round, with the limitation that you have to play them right away. Still very good, especially for 2 gold.

Kennit

Aug 01 2012 09:40 AM

Yes, you must still pay to play the card

OK, thx for the clarification!

A common combo is with The Laughing Storm (GotC) to let you keep the card in your hand, even if you can't or don't want to play it, allowing you to max your draw cap very easily each round.

Yes, but The Laughing Storm (GotC) says: "cards cannot be discarded from your hand.".
In case of Val cards are discarded from the draw pile. :unsure:

Ire

Aug 01 2012 09:44 AM

Yes, but The Laughing Storm (GotC) says: "cards cannot be discarded from your hand.".
In case of Val cards are discarded from the draw pile.

"reveal and draw", the card goes to your hand (but doesn't stay there for a long normally) so TLS works here.

Kennit

Aug 01 2012 12:16 PM

I didnÂ´t expect that "draw" means, that the card goes to your hand, before it is used for an action/response or gets discarded.
So thanks for the info!

Weoruld

Aug 13 2012 11:53 PM

The card's text sounds ambiguous. "Play that card as your next response... if able". Doesn't it mean that I may keep in my hand the card drawn that way until I play it as response or play any other response? For instance, the drawn card is an event response card. May I keep it in my hand for any time period as long as I don't play a response?

slothgodfather

Aug 14 2012 04:06 AM

No, because it says must, you must play it as your very next player action/response. The if able part generally refers to if you have the gold to pay for what you just drew, you must pay for it and play it. Notice that you do not have an opportunity to kneel any reducers in order to pay for the card just drawn. If it is a "response" event, then it either triggers immediately during the current response window or it is discarded before any other chance of a player action is allowed.

Thoressen

Sep 21 2013 02:59 PM

- How often can I use this ability ?

solaris187

Sep 21 2013 03:08 PM

how often can I use this ability ?

Until you reach your draw cap for the round

VonWibble

Sep 22 2013 02:38 PM

Given each use is a draw even if you play the card, that is generally 3 times - less if you already have drawn cards or had draw cap lowered, more if you have a higher draw cap (eg A Song of Fire).

14Shirt

Apr 30 2014 07:49 PM

Because it's a draw (so goes to hand, technically), does the card played trigger "played from your hand" effects (i.e. new Coldhands)? Seems like that should be the case.

Omek

May 01 2014 10:20 PM

Yes. Just make sure you trigger Val's ability during the Marshalling phase if you want to play any cards you draw that have a gold cost (even if the cost is 0).

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