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Siege of Riverrun

Submitted Darksbane , Aug 17 2010 05:52 PM | Last updated Mar 01 2011 07:31 PM

Siege of Riverrun Type: Plot House: Neutral Income:3 Initiative: 4 Claim: 2 Game Text: *Military Battle.* You cannot declare Intrigue challenges. Number: 49 Set: KotS Quantity: 3 Illustrator: Andrew Johanson
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17 Comments

julo

Jan 09 2012 12:13 PM

I don't understand what the meaning of "Military Battle" trait is here. Any ideas?

cupcakewinterfell

Jan 09 2012 01:41 PM

@julo - it is one of several traits that currently appear on the plot cards. "City" is another. Like traits on characters and attachments, they are referrenced by various cards and also connect the game with parts of the ice & fire narrative...

zordren

Jan 09 2012 11:16 PM

Cards like Kill for Your King! (TWot5K) and
To Be a Wolf (SB), for example.

cupcakewinterfell

Jan 10 2012 02:44 AM

That said, I've never understood the value of this card. Sure, 4 initiative is above average for a 2 claim plot but what deck is this really for? I'd rather have an extra gold or a non-negative effect if I were playing Stark siege and I can't imagine Lannister or Martell (or even Grayjoy half the time) wanting an intrigue blocking plot. Is the double claim actually useful for Bara?

korvacv

Jan 10 2012 02:59 AM

I use this card in several of my decks that dont do a lot of green challenges as it is still 3 gold and rather high initiative, and claim 2. Not being able to do a green in such decks doesnt affect me as such where i can do more of military and power challenges

julo

Jan 10 2012 10:01 AM

thank you guys,
but i was hopping that it meant something more, eg I get extra Str during MB (:

Laxen

Jan 10 2012 03:06 PM

Haha. I remember before we had relised that it was a trait too. We thought that Fleeing to the Wall only applied to "Others", as in other players then the plot's controller.

- zordren and Alaka like this

julo

Jan 11 2012 01:34 PM

and how many plot cards with the same name i can have in my plot deck? 3?
(i know that there are some cards with restrictions)

n00bcommander

Jan 11 2012 02:24 PM

@julo you can only have one of each plot card in your deck unless stated otherwise on the plot card itself. 7 plots per deck.

julo

Jan 12 2012 11:10 AM

thank you, i was just asking because on some of them is the text "Limit 1 per plot deck", eg
Fortified Position (LoW)
but most of the plot cards don't say anything ... so it is little bit confusing

sWhiteboy

Jan 14 2012 03:42 AM

@julo

I believe the "Limit 1 per plot deck" exist because they are reprints from the CCG era, where (at least at one point) you could have more than one of the same plot in your plot deck.

I may be wrong though.

JRoel

Jul 14 2012 04:57 PM

That said, I've never understood the value of this card. Sure, 4 initiative is above average for a 2 claim plot but what deck is this really for? I'd rather have an extra gold or a non-negative effect if I were playing Stark siege and I can't imagine Lannister or Martell (or even Grayjoy half the time) wanting an intrigue blocking plot. Is the double claim actually useful for Bara?

The one deck where this would be ultimately useful is a Targaryen melee deck running
Heir to the Iron Throne (QoD) as this would be a 2 claim card with absolutely no additional negative effect.

Laxen

Jul 15 2012 09:12 AM

Ye, my Melee dothraki deck with HttIT is the only deck I'm running this plot in. But I can still see potential in using it in some other decks too every now and then, where attacking in intrigue is something one rarely do, and use it on a turn where you expect to have to spend all your Intrigue STR for defence.

quenivel

Nov 06 2013 07:22 PM

"declare" is for attack and defend? i mean, can i defend in a intrigue challenge with this plot running?

14Shirt

Nov 06 2013 07:53 PM

You can defend intrigue challenges, yes. You just can't initiate them as an attacker.

quenivel

Nov 11 2013 01:58 AM

sure? it makes me doubt; according to the rules, the challenge it is formed by 3 steps:

1.declare attackers
2. declare defenders, and
3. resolution

...so, to defend i must "declare" it, mustn't i? to start a challenge the word -according the rules- is "initiate".

greetings

Golladan

Nov 11 2013 02:32 AM

First thing you do in a challenge is declare the challenge type and opponent. Siege of Riverrun prevents you from declaring intrigue challenges. FAQ flow charts use the word "declare" for declaring challenges.

If it referred to declaring attackers or defenders it would have specifically stated it.

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