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Orphan of the Greenblood
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Darksbane
, Aug 18 2010 12:54 AM | Last updated Jun 10 2013 03:27 AM
Orphan of the GreenbloodType: Character House: Martell Cost: 0 Strength: 0 Icons: Game Text: Ally. Any Phase: Discard Orphan of the Greenblood from play (cannot be saved) to choose 1 character. Until the end of the phase, that character loses a Military, an Intrigue, and a Power icon. Number: 15 Set: PotS Quantity: 2 Illustrator: Jonathan Standing |
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18 Comments
Enslaved (THoBaW) is played on this card can the owner trigger the Orphan ability before control changes?
Steps as follows:
1. Initiate effect to take control
2. cancels/saves? - in our initial response theory we have none
3. control change resolves successfully
4. passives
5. responses
There is no moribund status for changing control, so after step 3 completes the Orphan is no longer your character and you still wouldn't be able to trigger the response on there even if the play restrictions where met.
Correct, the moment a character is participating in a challenge (regardless of how it got there) it's STR counts regardless of what icons are or are not present; unless there is a follow up effect that says it doesn't.
When a card says "do x to y" then the x happens every time, and a cancel would only prevent the y, along with any " y, then z..." effects.
So that means canceling a Varymir Sixskins effect can be beneficial, To Be... events will still stand a character even if canceled, etc...
What would be correct?
A.) it can't gain an Icon because of the orphan.
B.) it gains an Icon because the effect of the orphan already resolved (that would be My guess).
Edit: Now I'm not sure that this is the correct answer after looking at what Ktom said
http://community.fan...the-greenblood/
Hmm.
From the FAQ, Pg 17:
"Most effects in A Game of Thrones resolve immediately after being triggered, but some effects last for a set period of time, or even indefinitely. Effects that last for longer than a single action are considered lasting effects. Both actions and passive abilities can be lasting effects. "
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"Multiple Lasting Effects
Even if not triggered at the same time, multiple Lasting Effects may affect the
same card at the same time. For example: a character without the Power icon is affected by two lasting effects. One (such as Slander) removes a Power icon from the character, and one (such as Lordship) adds the Power icon to that character. In this example the two lasting effects cancel each other, and the character is left unchanged. The order in which the lasting effects take place is irrelevant: the net sum result of all lasting effects is applied to the character (the net sum of –1 Power icon and +1 Power icon is 0, thus the character remains unchanged). A character can never have more than one icon of a specified kind. "
One caveat: "Slander" is not a card....FAQ the FAQ!!