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Ambush from the Plains
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Darksbane
, Apr 23 2011 12:36 AM | Last updated May 12 2011 03:57 AM
Ambush from the PlainsType: Event House: Neutral Cost: Game Text: Challenges: Put a Targaryen character into play from your hand or discard pile with printed cost lower than your total initiative. At the end of the phase, if that character is still in play, return that character to its owner's hand. Number: 36 Set: QoD Quantity: 3 Illustrator: Jason Engle |
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http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_foros_discusion.asp?efid=18&efcid=4&efidt=483733
Summary for future reference:
You can get a duplicate from your discard and add it to your unique character in play. It will not return to your hand at the end of phase.
Quote from ktom in above link:
If you use a "put into play" effect on a unique card that you already own and control in play, the copy you "put into play" will become a duplicate on the copy already in play.
As for the "return that character to your hand" stipulation on Ambush from the Plains, recall that the duplicate is not considered a character. It is a titleless, textless, traitless card. As such, it doesn't meet the criteria for "return thatcharacter to your hand."
Does using Ambush from the Plains to put a Herald of the East (SB) from your hand into play count as "playing Herald of the East from your hand" to trigger Herald of the East (SB) search ability?
No. The rules say "Character, Location, and Attachment cards are ‘played’ from the hand during the marshalling phase, by taking a player action and paying their gold cost."
They also say "‘Put into play’ effects are not considered to be ‘played.’"
So, since Amush from the Plains says "Put X into play," the effect doesn't count as playing X from your hand.
The event specifies "printed cost," so you're going to be dealing with the ink on the card, not the cost you would pay if you were playing the card. Just because the card becomes a dupe when it enters play does not mean you can treat its printed cost as 0. On the other hand, if the card enters play as a dupe, the character put into play by the event will not be in play at the end of the phase, so nothing is returned to hand.
Could you use this card to ambush in a character that is immune to events? Or does immune to events just mean while that card is "in play"? Just wondering because the effects of the event card return it to owners hand if it is still in play at the end of the phase.
No card text on characters, attachments or locations -- including immunity -- is active when the card is not in play (unless it specifically says otherwise). This card can put a character that is "immune to events" into play from the discard pile/hand. Note also that the character will return to hand at the end of the phase. The card gains the "return to hand" condition from the event before its immunity activates and enters play with the lasting effect already looming over it. At the end of the phase, it is the lasting effect, not an event, that returns it to hand.
How does this work with the "Aloof and Apart" Agenda? If the character has a cost greater >= 4 it stays in Play or not?
Aloof and Apart's "cannot be returned to hand" is absolute because of the word "cannot." It will trump the "return to hand at the end of the phase" effect of this card.