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Horseback Archers
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Darksbane
, Apr 22 2011 11:42 PM | Last updated May 11 2011 04:45 PM
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Horseback ArchersType: Character House: Targaryen Cost: 2 Strength: 3 Icons: Military Game Text: Dothraki. House Targaryen only. Challenges: During a Military challenge, kneel 1 influence to put Horseback Archers into play from your hand, knelt, as an attacker or defender. Then, at the end of the phase, if Horseback Archers is in play, return it to its owner's hand. Number: Set: QoD Quantity: 3 Illustrator: Thomas Denmark |
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18 Comments
The archers, like jumping, Cat aren't declared so you can bring them in.
Before stealth is declared, you can use Greatjon Umber (WLL) to jump in as a defender. Then your opponent declares stealth on one of your characters and you declare Ser Rodrik Cassel (Core) as your 1 defender. So currently you have 1 declared defender, but 2 participating defenders. During player actions, you could use Catelyn Stark (LoW) to jump into the challenge as a defender and now that you have a lady in the fight you could also bring Guardian Wolf (TIoR) out of shadows to also participate in the fight. Granted, this is clearly overkill, but it shows you that you still only have 1 defender "declared" but you now have 4 defending "participants."
I select him as moribound.
It goes to the hand and the end of the military challenge in which it has been declared as moribound (before diying) or it goes to the hand only if its alive at the end of the challenges phase???
Xnks
If you bring this guy into play with his ability can you use danny's chambers to retrieve an attachment?
Unfortunately not, as Horseback Archers' ability is 'put into play' and you can only trigger Lady Deanary's Chambre's effect in response to 'playing' a character, they are two separate mechanics.
Excerpt from the FAQ:
Quick question about this one: Do you have to have another character declared as a defender to be able to put him into play in the challenge as a defender?
Or when the challenge is declared, before you declare defenders, can you bring him into play knelt as the only defending card during that challenge?
You can use this card's ability any time after the challenge begins to jump it in from your hand as a defender. There doesn't have to be another defender already participating. There's nothing that says there must be other attackers or defenders already participating in order to use the ability and jump this card in on one side of the challenge or another.
You may be getting confused with the fact that, because of the required timing for "during a challenge," you cannot initiate a challenge by jumping this card in as your only attacker. The reason for this is because the ability can only be used during a challenge (i.e., after the challenge begins, but before it ends), and a challenge cannot begin until an attacker has been declared. So you have to declare an attacker first in order to get to a point where it is legal to use this card's ability (and jump it in as an attacker or defender).
Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Guys, can I play "Horseback Archers" from my hand as attacker OR defender, but under control of another player (by the analogy with "Greatjon Umber": Kneel Greatjon Umber to have him participate in the current Military or Power challenge as either the attacker or as the defender)
Under the control of another player? No. There is nothing in the text of the Archers (or in Greatjon Umber for that matter) that changes the control of the character. The Archers always come into play under your control.
That said, there is no rule that says the attacking player has to control a character for it to count its STR as an attacking character. So long as it is participating as an attacker, it counts its STR toward the total attacking challenge STR for the attacking player, no matter who controls it. So you can use the Archers to help another player attack or defend - but they do not take control of your character if you do.