I guess this is an attempt to curb Parasite recursion?

Probably.  It's a big F**K YOU to Exile, I know that much.

As a long-time Exile lover,I have to say I hope less corp use this agenda,it's just scare the **** out of me.

I love this card. A deck I play against frequently is a recursion deck and this answers that particular problem nicely.

I love this card. A deck I play against frequently is a recursion deck and this answers that particular problem nicely.

So does program and hardware destruction.  Or keeping the runner poor.  Or Fast advance.  Chronos Protocol is such an obnoxious card I hope it never gets used!

So does program and hardware destruction.  Or keeping the runner poor.  Or Fast advance.  Chronos Protocol is such an obnoxious card I hope it never gets used!

Well, not every corp deck is a rig trashing econ denying fast advancer, or even one of those things.

This card wipes potentially a bunch of problems in one fell swoop while also putting the corp 1 point closer to game. That's a lot of efficiency in one card, and I think it has a home in some corp decks.

YMMV

Silver bullet cards are a part of netrunner. The obvious example is Plascrete vs. Scorch. If you're worried about a particular, strong deck archetype you can include something to ruin its day.

Levy AR is good for decks that deliberately burn down fast. Its power is far more to do with the deck refresh than the hand refresh. It's good against Jinteki PE because they often want to run down your deck and kill you with net damage. Generally, you don't include it just to upset Jinteki though. You include it because you're slamming through your deck with Quality Time, ProCo etc.

I've got no issue with Chronos, Levy, or any other card that hurts a particular strategy. They're often introduced to rebalance the game (e.g. Jackson Howard). If your awesome deck has been nerfed by a new counter, it's time to man up and build a new deck.

Addendum: It is a little unfortunate that Chronos hurts Exile the worst, as he's the hardest Shaper to build in a way that wouldn't be strictly better in Kate. It's my belief that it's been introduced to counter shapers in general and shapers with one copy of Parasite specifically.

Hopefully Exile will get a new toy soon and then everything will be OK. I'm betting on a very limited form of recursion that triggers Exile's ability but only does a very specific job. That way the other Shapers won't get that much out of it.

Addendum: It is a little unfortunate that Chronos hurts Exile the worst, as he's the hardest Shaper to build in a way that wouldn't be strictly better in Kate. It's my belief that it's been introduced to counter shapers in general and shapers with one copy of Parasite specifically.

 

Hopefully Exile will get a new toy soon and then everything will be OK. I'm betting on a very limited form of recursion that triggers Exile's ability but only does a very specific job. That way the other Shapers won't get that much out of it.

That's the issue - Exile isn't exactly a Powerhouse tournament-winning identity compared to the others, yet is the one affected most by Chronos Project.  It just seems like a silver bullet to a problem that doesn't exist.

I wouldn't mind so much if it was a Jinteki Agenda, given that PE is (as you point out) the one that's hurt most by the ability to recur and refill hand.  But making it neutral just makes me sigh.

It's a silver bullet to a strong strategy - shaper recursion. Not a problem, but something that some decks could use a counter to. Personal Evolution is one, the other is Weyland program trashing. Other corps won't play it because they've got better, less situational options. There's no need to deny it to them by putting it in-faction, because it's just not that strong.

My point above was that Exile is collateral damage rather than the intended target. It was kind of inevitable seeing as recursion is 'his thing'. Now that there's a curb on pure recursion decks it lets Fantasy Flight print more cards that are good for Exile, safe in the knowledge that there's a hard counter to keep them in check. So in the long run, it could even be good for him in a weird way.

I've got no issue with Chronos, Levy, or any other card that hurts a particular strategy. They're often introduced to rebalance the game (e.g. Jackson Howard). If your awesome deck has been nerfed by a new counter, it's time to man up and build a new deck.

 Keep in mind I have NO qualms about Levy, as annoying as it is, I want to point out Chronos Protocol was necessary to counter infinite recursion decks like noiseshop or Levy. I lost to an exile running levy because he had five cards left in his deck, and reset the game. I nearly dragged him to the grave and he got a free do over, while I'm looking at my deck and realizing, things are going very badly for me. 

My argument was for anyone to go out and demand a card be removed without thinking about why it is in the meta is patently absurd. I dislike levy, I honestly think its a do over for runners that doesn't need to exist, and only forces games to slow down considerably. The fact its also a magic button to go against Jinteki PE is also a frustration. Does that honestly mean I don't want to see the card in the game? Not at all. It was a satire of the argument that Chronos Protocol needs to be eliminated.

However, saying I need to sack up and build a different deck if I can't handle a card existing is a little rude. I don't want a different deck. I want to be able to play a strategy that has existed since ONR and not have to play flavor of the week just to stay competitive. Luckily for me, FFG agrees with that sentiment.

I'd start worrying about it when you start seeing it played.

Levy AR Lab Access is such an obnoxious card

Seriously?  It gets a little play in our meta, but not much.  In all the Chronos, Regional and National events I've been to I've seen it used no more times than I can count on one hand.

It's not that great a card and its certainly not highly objectionable or offensive.  Its just another tool in the stable and something to be aware of. 

Back to the card in hand - its okay - but situational and for all the other 3/1s out there, not sure its that great.  Compared to House of Knives for example?  Depends what you're playing but so far this seems an okay agenda at best.  A lot of runner decks simply don't care about anything that they've lost.

I have seen far more comments about this card than I have seen actual play of the card.  I just see it as another example of 'safety valve' card design.

Yeah, unless they add a hardware that can host heap cards to keep them safe, I REALLY resent this card.  I could see that as a solution

$1: Host any number of cards from your heap onto Recycle Bin. 

$1: Move any number of cards from Recycle Bin to your heap.