I am still not sure if I should like this set or not. Imho it works best in a capture heavy deck and then you would go Scum right? But if you drop this in scum as a one-of you would have to run the Sith affiliation, because of Isard. This basically makes all your units except Isard susceptible to the new BtS Obi-Wan. What happens when the LS player sacrifices a near-dead force user to Noble Sacrifice burying Boba Fett and killing Xizor? I would weep

 

Also, there is a real risk that you flip this objective when LS destroys one (or if you use Masterful Manipulation) and turn off cards such as The Hunters that require 3 Scum objectives. Other cards get less usefull when this is out (Pay out for instance). The sad thing is, that with this game text, you want it out!

 

So what do you think, is it worth it? Or am I missing something (which would not surprise me )

Since they made it a 1 of I don't think you should be building decks around it because it's so inconsistent, and in that same vein, I don't think you should sacrifice other sets in your deck just to add it in.

Hopefully as we get more scum sets this will go into more decks and have good synergy.

Or perhaps its worth it if there are more Sith objectives in the deck. I cannot remember now who build it (sorry) but I read about a Sith/Scum deck using Zuckuss that won tournaments; maybe in such a deck this is worth including. Thinking Findsman Intuition x2, Slave Trade x2 The Investigation and good Sith/Scum support.

It can work with quite a few scum sets.  Jabbas orders is another one as the units let you look at your opponents hand which gives you more ways to "get me Solo", tatooine crash because of the auto capture each turn and a  few others.   I have built a few decks with it and when it you get your investigation/isard combo running its really tough for the LS but since shes just a 1x, its not going to happen alot and the problem is, without her stopping your opponent from putting out too many big units, you get over run by jedi and don't really have any answers because capture as a whole isn't great still.  Its certainly not as good as straight up removal like sith has.  

Fortunately Scum get some good reinforcements with BtS. Xizor, the new Boba, can do some damage. Xizor is the Scum Emperor and his set contains Shadows of the Empire which not only triggers his ability but can get rid of any pesky objective. So I am thinking Scum/Sith control has a future and the investigation fits in nicely, but what I said in my first post still should be considered, I think. 

Xizor is scum and villainy only, so splashing sith into scum would be dangerous, and there isn't very much capture in sith, so xizor+ investigation in a sith heavy desk doesn't really work. Boba fett has zero capture in it, so synergy wise, that's not a great fit either. As you said, the hunters with investigation makes the hunters blank.

At the moment, I just think this set isn't quite ready to go into a deck, not necessarily because of any issues with it, bit more so, but because many of the scum capture sets are lacking in one or more departments (edge, resources, reliable/consistent capture, good chuds/mains etc)

You know, I totally missed that on Xizor's objective . I meant Xizor for his ability to control the board with his tactics. Also, his pod can trigger his own ability quite nicely. Boba would be more as a one-off drop for some punching power just in case. And as I said in my first post, the power cards from the Investigation are all Sith - splashing them in Scum is risky without the Sith affiliation card. If they made the ability of the objective itself weaker, I think they could have removed the limit-1. 

 

Still I do think that any (future) deck including the Investigation would have to have a Scum part. I think Sith is not going to get more capture stuff... their toolbox is good enough and filled with better tools. On the other side, BtS Obi-Wan seems to be tailor-made to punish decks which have a large non-affiliation component so this could be the gateway to something completely new...Sith capturing cards when they _lose_ a force struggle?  

Still I do think that any (future) deck including the Investigation would have to have a Scum part. I think Sith is not going to get more capture stuff... their toolbox is good enough and filled with better tools. On the other side, BtS Obi-Wan seems to be tailor-made to punish decks which have a large non-affiliation component so this could be the gateway to something completely new...Sith capturing cards when they _lose_ a force struggle?

 

Absolutely.  Scum is the capture affiliation after all, however we're sure to see lots of new mechanics as well.  We've already seen the eater of luck spoiled that lets you capture a card when you lose edge battles as the attacker so there we're bound to see many more mechanics.  Plus, Sith do already have another set besides the investigation that has capture in it (navy has one as well) so, i think its very possible to see more capture out of scum too.

You mean Cruel Interrogations for Sith? That one only captures on revealing the objective and the rest of the cards in that set are..unimpressive (except for maybe Interrogation). I hope Sith get some unorthodox capture stuff then

cruel interrogations is a very good set, and used to be a staple of sith control decks.  The only reason it went out of favor is because sleuth decks became so prevalent and the droids can't block them, but that is a good set, there isn't 1 bad card in that set.  

Now for a really interesting question: How does this objective interact with chain reaction? Can you play it at the start of the game? If the objective is damaged and then undamaged does it turn all the reactions back on?

cruel interrogations is a very good set, and used to be a staple of sith control decks.  The only reason it went out of favor is because sleuth decks became so prevalent and the droids can't block them, but that is a good set, there isn't 1 bad card in that set.  

Bad no... I just do not find them *that* good compared to other Sith sets out there. All the cards are useful, sure.

 

 

Now for a really interesting question: How does this objective interact with chain reaction? Can you play it at the start of the game? If the objective is damaged and then undamaged does it turn all the reactions back on?

 

That is a cool idea...I guess you could play it if you have the Scum resource free...and then you could name another card and block that as well

That is a cool idea...I guess you could play it if you have the Scum resource free...and then you could name another card and block that as well

 

Chain reaction is neutral, no scum resource needed.