If a player attacks a Hoth objective with two units, chooses to resolve unit 1 first and unit 1 deals no blast damage, is it considered "to strike against" the Hoth objective and thus trigger the ability of Subzero Defenses?

If a player attacks a Hoth objective with two units, chooses to resolve unit 1 first and unit 1 deals no blast damage, is it considered "to strike against" the Hoth objective and thus trigger the ability of Subzero Defenses?

Yes it just has to strike, doesn't have to damage the objective or even be able to damage it.

Yes it just has to strike, doesn't have to damage the objective or even be able to damage it.

Thanks...I was thinking it "Strikes" if it's in the battle...triggering Subzero Defenses...even if it doesn't do any damage to the objective.

The online card setup for Star Wars LCG is a bit confusing at times. If you'd looked at the other Subzero Defenses available for the same objective on this site, you would have found the answer without having to ask (because I had to ask earlier too)

Maybe it would be a good idea to find a solution to this. Maybe merging all instances of the same cards (fate cards, I'm looking at you) into a single page (and displaying all objectives in which they appear on them).

Is condition the same as forced reaction in this case?

Is condition the same as forced reaction in this case?

Condition is a trait. Just like Force User or Vehicle.

Forced Reaction is an ability.

Subzero Defenses text is a constant that is always "on".

Could be a dumb question but came up in an online match:

 

If the LS player has all 3 Hoth Objectives, does it kill the first unit to strike in three separate engagements? My understanding was it only killed the first unit to unit, as separate engagements would constitute the 2nd and 3rd strikes respectively.

 

Thanks!

@jcmclellan. I am not the authority on rules but I agree with you on this. It should only kill the first one to strike any hoth objective, not the first unit to strike each. Otherwise this would be totally undercosted IMO.

no, it specifically states it only kills the first unit to strike against a hoth objective EACH TURN.   If your opponent argued this card and he was on octgn, just put him on ignore, best to avoid people like this, they will argue that the sky isn't blue and make your time on octgn very unenjoyable.

doesn't 'against' here refer to the objective itself? Intuition says that otherwise ot would be worded just 'strike ( during engagement )'. Resolving combat icons do target?

@theduke26 @ jcmcclellan, your interpretation is most convincing on this. Each Turn would be written 'each engagement' otherwise

doesn't 'against' here refer to the objective itself? Intuition says that otherwise ot would be worded just 'strike ( during engagement )'. Resolving combat icons do target?

The unit simply needs to strike while engaging a Hoth objective, it could have zero icons at all and it would still die.

The unit simply needs to strike while engaging a Hoth objective, it could have zero icons at all and it would still die.

Is there a ruling confirmed for this? If so the wording is quite counter-intuitive

Is there a ruling confirmed for this? If so the wording is quite counter-intuitive

 

Answered by Nate French here: http://www.cardgamed...nly/#entry29226.

 

I have a questions about Subzero Defense.

Do the first unit sacrifice need to have star blast icon or just any first unit that is focused to strike?

Nate French

The first enemy unit that is focused to strike in an engagement that was declared against a Hoth objective. It doesn't matter what icons the unit has
Nate French
Senior LCG Designer
Fantasy Flight Games

Is there a ruling confirmed for this? If so the wording is quite counter-intuitive

I don't see how it is counter intuitive. The first unit that strikes. Pretty simple really. 

I can see why people feel the wording is counter intuitive because it's saying when a unit strikes against a friendly hoth objective, however, it's really not, you just need to realize that it doesn't matter if you have blast damage or not, your units still strike the objective, they just aren't doing any damage to it.

Rulings

http://www.cardgamed...g-only/?p=29226

 

http://www.cardgamed...g-only/?p=50518

 

http://www.cardgamed...g-only/?p=56241

 

http://www.cardgamed...-only/?p=205994