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Calm Before the Storm
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Darksbane
, Aug 17 2010 04:41 AM | Last updated Mar 01 2011 06:44 PM
Calm Before the StormType: Plot House: Neutral Income:4 Initiative: 2 Claim: 1 Game Text: Characters and locations are immune to events this round. Number: 51 Set: LoW Quantity: 3 Illustrator: Goran Delic |
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So, Immunity to Events would prevent To Be a Wolf. I think.
The standing sounds like a cost to me, so I'm thinking that if this plot is out, I can still play TBAW (assuming I have a Military Battle in my used pile and a knelt Stark character) because the immunity only worries about the effect of events.
However, your opponent could be smart and say you can't choose attachments, so you would only be able to search for an event card, or vice versa (as you couldn't choose characters or location cards due to the plot effect).
About A Game of Cyvasse... So, if tapping the character is a part of the Event, then choosing the player that will tap is a cost?
I really wish there was a "Delete" or "Edit" button for these comments.
This opens up for a big question that I've been carrying around for a while; So cards out of play are actually considered being Characters or Locations etc? Coming from a Magic background, I consider Characters out of play as Character Cards, not being affected by effects that target or in any way affect Characters, since it would open up for a lot of targeting issues (event cards targeting characters targeting also characters in hand etc). But in AGoT this might be solved in another way.
Assertion of might is fine. You have to win the unopposed challenge, then kneel the influence or War character. then get the power. As it's only the claiming power that is the effect (the rest are costs), no characters or locations are targeted and thus the event works.
The other two don't work though as characters are directly targeted by those events.
More generally, with this plot out, the effects of event cards cannot be used to directly affect characters or locations. As mentioned above, this does not include costs or play restrictions, so if the event card says something along the lines of "do X to do Y," it is only the "Y" that is prevented by this plot, not the X.
Assertion of Might: "Do X to do Y." Nothing in the Y tries to do anything to a character or a location (even though one of the ways to pay for the event in X is to kneel characters), so it can be used.
Distinct Mastery: There actually is no cost here, and the effect of the event (the Y) tries to stand a character. So this event is prevented by the plot. It doesn't matter that the effect would probably be beneficial to the character, the immunity still stops the event.
Risen from the Sea: Same as Distinct Mastery.
What if someone tries to cancel a triggered effect of a character with an event card ? E.g. You want to block Salladhor Saan's ability (''Marshalling: Kneel Salladhor Saan to choose and discard 1 location from play.'') to save a location of yours. The event card is played on the triggered effect and not on the character. Since SS's effect is optional, it is the controller's choice to trigger it, and therefore the event to cancel it (e.g. ''Seasick'') is played on his/ers choice. Am I correct? :-) I mean, you are cancelling the triggered effect, which does not affect the character per se.
Ultimately, yes. Cancel effects played against an immune card's triggered abilities do not directly affect the immune card, so the immunity does not stop the cancel. Rather than going through the detailed explanation, though, it's probably easier to simply point to the FAQ's entry on "Scope of Immunity" where this is dealt with directly.