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Maester Wendamyr
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Darksbane
, Aug 17 2010 05:34 PM | Last updated Mar 01 2011 07:26 PM
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Maester Wendamyr
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It doesn't say that character need to be in play, for him to save that character.
My question is, if u lose Greyjoy character from your hand for a claim of intrigue challenge, can u still use Maester Wendamyr to save that character and not discard him?
It doesn't say so, because it doesn't have to.
You can't "save" a card from being discarded from your hand, because that card is never in play.
Cards in play can only interact with out-of-play cards if they say they can, such as Brightwater Keep. Similarly, cards out-of-play can only interact with cards in play, or have their text be "active" if their ability says so explicitly, such as Lady Stoneheart.
As far as I know, Wendamyr and the other character will both be moribund after Valar is revealed. At that stage, you can kneel Wendamyr to either save himself, the other character or any other applicable Greyjoy character you control. After saves are made, moribund characters go to the dead pile.
Thanks chem2702! Such a precious guy he is.
Be aware that nothing becomes moribund until Valar resolves. Saving a character does not bring it back from moribund - it stops it from ever becoming moribund in the first place.
Save effects are resolved individually with each one resolving completely before the next one is triggered. So, since Wendamyr kneels as a cost of his save, and the "then" part stands the character that was just saved, Wendamyr can save himself and another character from the same Valar, but you have to make sure that he saves (then stands) himself first and the other character second.
Does this mean you can save both M. Wendamyr and another character if you have 2 influence to kneel when a Valar kicks in?
Yes - IF you do it in the following sequence exactly:
1. Valar initiates.
2a. Wendamyr kneels to save himself; kneel 2 influence to stand him.
2b. Wendamyr kneels to save another GJ character.
3. Valar resolves (kill all characters not saved)
So after Valar resolves, you have 2 characters left: Wendamyr (kneeling) and another GJ (probably standing).
If you don't have the 2 influence, you would only be able to save one character between #1 and #3 with Wendamyr. As you noticed yourself above, that 1 character saved does not necessarily have to be Wendamyr himself, although it could be.
Again in a case of Valar, supposing I have a duplicate MW, is this (almost) the same situation as the above described? I mean, do I still get to save another character by kneeling him and them 'kill' the duplicate of MW?
You may save each character you have in play from Valar, if you can. Which effect you use to save them doesn't matter.
Thanks ktom!!