Like Baharroth a great Warlord by itself that allows Dark Eldar players to play a Chaos-like game that is full of removal that works exceptionally well against decks who rely heavily on 2 Costed or 3 Costed units. 

 

The downside of Baharroth is that he currently does not have the tools to deal well with swarms making Kith slightly more better equiped for the current meta (as he brings the Swarm himself and also has removal good options available plus some very decent Choke).

 

Nontheless this Warlord by itself is a great and fun alternate option for Dark Eldar players to work with. The combination of discard and removal Urien runs make him exceptionally good against the more "midgame/control" decks.

 

4/5

Better than Kith at choke I think. Ouch. No doggies can hurt but I have seen Kith win plenty of games without needing them so I'm not holding that against him as much as some might. So different to Kith I don't feel able to give a grade.

Why 1/6 bloodied, Y?

Bwarharhar, I'm so popular these days in the BCL! Even more charismatic and popular than puny Worr! People will finally cower before my torturing ways!

And if any should doubt my superior popularity - does whippersnapper Broderick have a nice tributary poem written in his honour within the poetry thread in the forums? Nou, he most certainly doesn't..

[Cough!#shamelessbumpforthepoetrythreadCough!]

He still sucks though :-\

He still sucks though :-\

That certainly depends on one's individual criteria for something 'sucking' I believe.

If you mean that Urien won't win you much in tournaments on a top level, then sure.

I'd say the fun and excitement of this game lies other places than just within the tournaments though; for me the fun lies in the matches where you experiment and face different warlords and builds, other ideas if you will, than what the typical tier 1 'usual suspects' that features in most tournaments bring to the table. For me, the majority of the fun (especially nowadays of course) in this game lies in the casual matches.

And in casual play Urien most definitely doesn't "suck" imho.

He still sucks though :-\

 

Saw a recent match with Urien played by SlanneshDevotee and with the new BCL cards Urien certainly does not suck. As an Urien player myself I am excited with all the new cards he's given.  He's never been stronger than now and I hope TeamApoka will continue to support him with new cards.

That certainly depends on one's individual criteria for something 'sucking' I believe.

If you mean that Urien won't win you much in tournaments on a top level, then sure.

I'd say the fun and excitement of this game lies other places than just within the tournaments though; for me the fun lies in the matches where you experiment and face different warlords and builds, other ideas if you will, than what the typical tier 1 'usual suspects' that features in most tournaments bring to the table. For me, the majority of the fun (especially nowadays of course) in this game lies in the casual matches.

And in casual play Urien most definitely doesn't "suck" imho.

In some respects yes, but not entirely. To be honest, if my criteria for having fun is seing my deck in flames, I'm not sure that is relevant to the game? If you're having fun building your deck that's all good, but if it doesn't work well when playing the actual game, I think it's safe to say it doesn't work and if you lose 100 of 100 games, it surely sucks?

You might have fun playing different warlords and decks, but if you can't win, how can either the warlord or the deck not suck? 

I have fun playing Urien, but I still think he sucks hard as he lacks options which other warlords have available en masse.

 

I see your point for sure, but even in casual play where I find Urien severely lacking, I just don't think any more of him than he sucks.
 

I've not played the BCL nor the Apoka cards though, so I can't say that it helps.

 

Edit: it occurs to me that I say Urin sucks, a lot here. So just to clarify. I think he sucks

Edit2: Sorry for the amount of sucks mentioned.

I agree completely that there's little fun in losing incessantly, but if you lose 100 out of 100 games with Urien you either have exceedingly tough opponents up there, or, you may very well be doing something wrong; while the former is entirely possible, there is a possibility that you either build your Urien deck wrong (from an optimising perspective), or maybe you simply overlook that Urien should be played very differently from most other warlords. Hence he is both rather challenging and also unforgivingly frail, which leads him to have a quite unreliable win-rate, in my experience at least.

 

I see his greatest weakness as swarm enemies, Broderick, Zarathur, Zogwort and maybe Swarmlord too, but otherwise I don't think he is entirely bad off. And certainly not so bad that he merits a label of outright 'sucking'

You're very much entitled to your opinion of course

I would certainly agree that swarms are not good for Urien. Most of his tools are very effective at remove single cards or single enemies, and when your opponent has lots of cards/enemies, well... Thankfully, the current meta is a little more elite focused which I think works in his favour.

Can't argue with the point that he is not consistent though!

The thing that makes Urien suck, is the one thing that is supposed to make him unique. His +- cost to events/tortures.
The torture events available simply don't do enough to warrant their use. Power from Pain can be good, but you can't always guarantee he doesn't have enough weenies out to satisfy the sac. His sig event is boring and not helpful in combat. Searing Brand can be played around and requires your WL to be present.
Soul Seizure for sure can be a great card, but it's expensive as well, which brings me to another point that drags Urien down into the dumpster, the torture events are expensive. You will have a hard time bringing out hard hitting units, while also have the resource to pay for your torture events.

I've played a lot of Urien, in a lot of different decks/themes and I always come to the same conclusion that I simply can't muster of the funding for everything he has to pay for. And again the tortures, when you do pay for them, don't do enough. They just don't do enough. 2 cost Archon's Terror, you KNOW what it does, you KNOW it removes a unit (non-unique but still). Searing Brand you don't know if it hits for 3 unless your opponent has 1 or fewer cards in hand, while still requiring your WL to be present.
There are few combat impacting tortures available, for a reasonable cost.

I've often compared the torture events to pin-pricks, they're a nuisance for sure, but that's it. But what does that help when your opponent is throwing out a lot more impactful units and events?

I really like Urien, and for as long as we continue to play the game I probably can't stop trying to make him work. He's my own little torture

Well, as many of us can attest, you have to be a masochist in order to like playing Urien.