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2 Champs and a Chump- Episode 119

2 Champs and a Chump 2C1C Podcast Kennon

Episode 118- Cast: Will, Greg, Brett, and Darryl. Journey's End review. Music: Josh Woodward, Celestial Aeon Project, and Manuel Gertrudix


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Gentleman, I disagree with your assesment of Blessed by the Maiden. I am seeing a major use for it in the Martell Princes Plans / Westeros Bleeds deck (shuffling back in the Plans from the dead pile, or shuffle in 3 not so great cards from your discard, so when you play Plans you get back better cards). With all of the draw/psuedo-draw Martell can get through House Messenger, Bannermen, Paramour, and even (conditionally) Scavenger, I see Blessed by the Maiden making the Plans / Bleeds deck Tier 1.
Also, Blessed by the Maiden in a Stark Siege deck? Play Maiden pre-plot, shuffle in 3 Epic Battles, then reveal Negotiations at the Great Sept to keep up the rush.
I am sure there are more, but that is what I came up with off the top of my head...

EDIT: I know some will point to the Influence cost as a drawback, but I guess I don't see it as much of one, most decks will have 6-7 Influence-providing locations anyway (3 Seas, 3 Fiefdoms, maybe a Chamber...)
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I can see where the argument comes from when it deals with Martell in terms of control, but it's better to just get another card that affects the board state when it comes to Stark Siege. After getting three Epic Battles into play and then having a moment where you need more almost seems 'win-more.'

The biggest thing that they kinda skipped over is the fact that, with a larger deck size(TLV) will have less benefit because it's being shuffled back into a large pool and them being in the deck has no affect to you winning while you already used resources to potentially get them back.
I imagine what would happen: Play the event, spend resources, put cards back, and the turn goes on as usual. Just with you out a Holy character or two influence.

I could see this being more relevant if control made a bigger swing but it doesn't seem too effective when you can't fish it out reliably.

About the episode: Giving a C to Qarl!? To me, it's the best card in the pack.
Also, I was laughing right along during the Randyll Tarly argument, loved it.
Awesome episode, thanks for the work!
I loved the Qarl the Maid grade discussion

Gentleman, I disagree with your assesment of Blessed by the Maiden. I am seeing a major use for it in the Martell Princes Plans / Westeros Bleeds deck (shuffling back in the Plans from the dead pile, or shuffle in 3 not so great cards from your discard, so when you play Plans you get back better cards). With all of the draw/psuedo-draw Martell can get through House Messenger, Bannermen, Paramour, and even (conditionally) Scavenger, I see Blessed by the Maiden making the Plans / Bleeds deck Tier 1.
Also, Blessed by the Maiden in a Stark Siege deck? Play Maiden pre-plot, shuffle in 3 Epic Battles, then reveal Negotiations at the Great Sept to keep up the rush.
I am sure there are more, but that is what I came up with off the top of my head...

EDIT: I know some will point to the Influence cost as a drawback, but I guess I don't see it as much of one, most decks will have 6-7 Influence-providing locations anyway (3 Seas, 3 Fiefdoms, maybe a Chamber...)

I played a meta mate the other day who was using that strategy and I must say it was very good and annoying. He recycled westeros bleeds, burning on the sands and choosing the spear. All while shuffling his princes plans back into his deck as well. It was pretty rad. But alas it wasn't enough to win in any of our games but it's pretty sweet.
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I played a meta mate the other day who was using that strategy and I must say it was very good and annoying. He recycled westeros bleeds, burning on the sands and choosing the spear. All while shuffling his princes plans back into his deck as well. It was pretty rad. But alas it wasn't enough to win in any of our games but it's pretty sweet.

I'm wondering if TLV might have something to do with the undervaluing of Blessed by the Maiden? Like, yeah I can shuffle 3 cards into a ginormous deck, where I may not see them again. But in a nice "regular" 60 card-ish deck with some draw in it, I bet Blessed by the Maiden does work.