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2C1C- Episode 172
Aug 08 2014 04:00 AM |
Kennon
in Game of Thrones
2C1C 2 Champs and a Chump Podcast Kennon Gearhalt Thepandathatrides
18 Comments
Because no room can hold the awesomeness of 2C1C, it is now recorded in space.
Besides this, thanks for your houses ranking. I am looking forward, how good your predictions are, and which houses will be at the top in the end of Gencon. Have fun there.
Really appreciate a melee overview - it gives me a really good perspective on the difference in competitive Melee and table in a basement Melee. It's odd, since we've never played to consider second except out of pride.
Guys, this episode turned out pretty good...well done.
In listening to this I thought to myself "well, the discussion is good but I completely disagree with putting Greyjoy anywhere near 1st, and certainly not above Stark". So I decided to do some data collection on the Battle of Blackwater, the biggest tournament since the FAQ.
Caveats to this data:
- It was immediately after the FAQ and people hadn't necessarily had time to test new builds.
- Prize in the North was not legal for this tournament.
- European Meta =/= North American Meta, although differences are slowly receding.
- There is obviously not necessarily enough data from one tournament, even a large one like this, to draw widescale conclusions.
With that all said, here is the data I gathered:
Soooo..... the biggest thing that I get out of this is that my house rankings were almost exactly correct based on that data?
I have started to like running a Targaryen deck with shadows kingsguard in melee. Several renown characters in there of which all are no attachments except weapons so Mel's Favor simply cannot touch em. Shadows keep them quite safe as well and that shadow Barristan really is a beast. Couple all this with plenty of stands and the likes of To Be a Dragon/Ambush from the Plains you have even ways of fastly securing winning power without your opponents realizing that you could actually go for the win.
I still don't see these guys often enough, but the new neutral brotherhood guys should see more play in melee. Gedry is really good as is Lady of the Leaves since the requirement is that someone has more power than you do.
Joust
1.stark
2.greyjoy(give people time)
3.lannister
4.targaryen
5.Martell
6.baratheon
Ah, man, I can't believe I forgot about Gendry! He's probably an auto include in every melee deck!
I'm going to say
1. Targ
2. Stark
3. GJ
4. Martell
5. Lanny
6. Neutral
7. Baratheon
Just kidding,but I really feel Bara is still very very weak!
That's spot-on.
I feel bara has the best closers in the game, but they are usually better runed outside their house. Example: Fat Bob out of targ with fire made flesh!
It sounds like an EQ issue to me. You need a drastic cut in the low mids. There probably will be some EQ tweaks needed after that, but it's where I would start trying to correct the recording.
So we got 0 Targ in the top 8, only 1 Stark in the top 8 (and none in the top 4), the other four houses all featuring with one deck each. How do you feel your predictions went?
Listened to all my casts late this week as I have been busy, but great episode again guys well done, but lookout for your competition bringing in Buzz the Ringer Podcaster.
PS great job Panda on your GenCon placing