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Beyond the Wall, Season 1 Episode 14


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In this week's episode, Istaril and Darknoj do a quick Regional Recap. Then, with guest Justin S., we give you part two of our series featuring a house and where it stands in the new meta. Once again, we each build a competitive Lannister deck to test with or against in your tournament preparations. Finally, in our closing comments, we announce upcoming regionals and discuss some upcoming podcast plans.

Relevant links:
Justin's Deck (If link doesn't work, see comments).
Darknoj's Deck
Istaril's Deck
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Justin's deck (if the agotcards link doesn't work, wait a day or so for the deck to be published)

Lannister // House of Dreams
Plots (8)
Crossing the Ruby Ford 1
Betrayal at the Wall 1
Forgotten Plans 1
Shores of Ny Sar 1
Valar Morghulis 1
At the Palace of Sorrows 1
Under the Bridge of Dream 1
Crossing the Mummer's Ford 1
Characters (33)
Janos's Conspirator 3
Gilly 1
Littlefinger 1
Ygritte 1
Silent Sisters 1
Tommen Baratheon 1
Varys 1
Tyrion Lannister 1
Ser Gregor's Dog 3
Campfire Mime 1
Shagga Son of Dolf 1
Gold Cloaks 2
Ser Jaime Lannister 2
Pyromancer's Apprentice 2
Ser Mandon Moore 1
Ser Balon Swann 1
Syrio Forel 1
Janos Slynt 1
Ser Arys Oakheart 1
Qyburn 1
Free Man 3
Mountain Refugee 3
Events (7)
A House Divided 1
Harry the Riverlands 3
Lashing Out 1
Dissension 1
Paper Shield 1
Locations (19)
Kingdom of Shadows 2
The Goldroad 3
King's Landing 1
The Iron Throne 1
Tunnels of the Red Keep 1
The Kingsroad 2
Alchemist's Guild Hall 2
Golden Tooth Mines 2
Twilight Market 1
Lion's Gate 1
Pentoshi Manor 3
Attachments (3)
Increased Levy 3
Darknoj's Deck

Lannister // The Power Behind the Throne

Plots (8)
Valar Morgulis 1
Retaliation! 1
Fear of Winter 1
Dry Season 1
Blockade 1
Men of Pride 1
Betrayal at the Wall 1
Cersei's Scheme 1
Characters (34)
Cersei Lannister 2
Jon Snow 1
Tommen Baratheon 1
Tywin Lannister 2
Craster 1
The Mad Huntsman 1
Tycho Nestoris 1
Janos Slynt 2
Janos's Conspirator 3
Enemy Informer 3
Ygritte 2
Lannisport Councilor 2
Lannisport Weaponsmith 2
King Joffrey's Guard 1
Ser Arys Oakheart 1
Mountain Refugee 3
Ser Gregor's Dog 3
The Hound 1
Margaery Tyrell 1
Gilly 1
Events (7)
Harry the Riverlands 3
Nightmares 1
You've Killed the Wrong Dwarf! 3
Locations (16)
Ashemark 1
The Searoad 1
Sunset Sea 1
Shadowblack Lane 1
The Goldroad 3
Street of Sisters 1
The Iron Throne 2
River Row 1
Lannisport Tourney Grounds 1
Golden Tooth Mines 3
Sunset Sea 1
Attachments (3)
Longclaw 1
Widow's Wail 2
Istaril's Deck

Lannister // No Agenda

Plots (8)
Valar Morghulis 1
Betrayal at the Wall 1
Retaliation! 1
The Art of Seduction 1
Summoned by the Conclave 1
Cersei's Scheme 1
On My Oath 1
City of Lies 1
Characters (35)
Janos's Conspirator 3
Arbor Guardsman 2
Lannisport Moneylender 2
Syrio Forel 1
Ygritte 1
The Hound 1
Qyburn 1
King Joffrey's Guard 1
Ser Jaime Lannister 2
Littlefinger 1
Carrion Bird 2
Alleras 1
Ser Preston Greenfield 2
Varys 1
Tommen Baratheon 1
Ser Boros Blount 1
Free Man 2
Enemy Informer 2
Tyrion Lannister 1
House Clegane Brigands 2
Ser Robert Strong 1
Janos Slynt 1
Ser Arys Oakheart 1
Margaery Tyrell 1
Cersei Lannister 1
Events (5)
Harry the Riverlands 3
Condemned by the Council 2
Locations (19)
Kingdom of Shadows 2
Shadowblack Lane 1
Street of Steel 1
Sunset Sea 2
The Roseroad 1
The Goldroad 3
The Iron Throne 2
River Row 1
King's Landing 1
Alchemist's Guild Hall 2
Lannisport Brothel 1
Golden Tooth Mines 2
Attachments (1)
Widow's Wail 1
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scantrell24
May 05 2014 01:15 PM
Are people really using Alleras in Quentyn decks?

I feel the same way about Lanni NW. I played it before this FAQ, so the deck had Pentoshi as well as Betrayal into S&D, and it won a fair amount of games.

You guys also didn't mention Lanni KotHH at all. I'm still not convinced that it's Tier 1, but it's extremely annoying to play against.
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Alleras is a phenomenal silver bullet against a great many rush decks, and, in combination with some icon control (or kneel), can really help deny challenges. I would include one in every N/A I build at the moment.

You're right about KotHH, it didn't occur to us to discuss it. I'm really not sure the build has been 'solved' and is one you need to tech against for tournament play, so I don't feel too bad about the omission, but it's probably the KotHH that was least crippled by the FAQ and, as you say, very annoying to play against.

It also occurs to me we didn't talk much about Lanni KotR, which we somewhat dismissed because I feel the N/A is stabler in this meta and other houses have better KotR builds... but I realize this is definitely up for debate. Only so many minutes in a podcast though!
One comment regarding your Ser Arys discussion--Justin thinks that PotS is always better, but is that because he hasn't received the joy that is Ser Robert Strong? Ser Arys (TK) helps mitigate the downside of that card and to me merits his inclusion. Just run another dissension if you want, but I'd say in Alex's build I'd run the shadow one.
    • darknoj, Ire and istaril like this
Alleras is a true asshat to be against when his ability is turned on. He is sucky to be against especially when you are running Power Behind the Throne.
Haha, yes omitting KotR is a huge bummer.
Ya i think its because I always forget about the knights since lannister has so many better builds imo. Thats not to say that KotR are not good, just that i feel their are not as good as other options.
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PulseGlazer
May 06 2014 03:02 AM
Bomb apparently didn't notice, but in NY he was second, I was third. We both lost to the same deck.
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PulseGlazer
May 06 2014 03:03 AM
I went to 9 sc's... won 2, first after swiss in 5, third place in 5. Gotta love variance.

Bomb apparently didn't notice, but in NY he was second, I was third. We both lost to the same deck.


And we both suffered our only two losses against it for that matter.

I went to 9 sc's... won 2, first after swiss in 5, third place in 5. Gotta love variance.


You also either can't count or can't add.

You also either can't count or can't add.


He's an English teacher... that of which we wonder is also true... ;)