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The Things I Do For Win – Greyjoy Maester Choke

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There hasn’t been a more dreaded archetype during the LCG era. Choke uses Greyjoy’s inherent affinity with winter and location control to restrict opponent’s resources. The size of an opponent’s hand become a non-issue when they have zero gold to play characters.

The White Cloak Arsenal
Burned and Pillaged (FtC)- Arguably the defacto card that makes this archetype work
The Sparr (APS)- Helps to reduce gold and powers winning initiative
Cragorn (ASoSilence)- Steals a gold without the need for seasons
Maester Murenmure (CbtC)- Stops reducers cold
White Raven (TWoW)- Winter squeezes gold in a non-interactive way
Wintertime Marauders (ACoS)- The best card Greyjoy has in their arsenal
Ice Fisherman (TWoW)- As characters they don’t do challenges, solely to steal gold
River Blockade (RoR)- Another reducer canceller
Support of the Kingdom (Core)- Allows you to steal problem locations in combo with Burned
Nightmares (LoW)- One shot effect to stop income locations
Newly Made Lord (TftH)- Kills locations as a non-cancelable passive
Pyromancer's Apprentice (TBoBB)- A great use for the gold you steal
Attack from the Sea (PotS)- Stops the flood of reducers before you exert your dominance

The deck is trying to win the game by influencing what your opponent can play in one turn. The majority of the decision making process is during the marshalling phase. You are actually playing a different game than your opponent. If they can’t handle attachments or playing small ball, than you should have the game locked up.

The reason this deck isn’t more popular is because it creates Negative Play Experiences (NPE). If you are a Jaime, there isn’t a more desired type of game.

Of Maesters and Men
Because this is a form of combo and control we want to draw into our money cards as soon as possible. There isn’t a better way to do this than running the maester agenda.

By stacking six chains onto The Maester's Path (GotC) we get cut our deck size down to 54. To further enhance our chances to draw into Burn and Pillage and White Raven we want our gold curve to be obscenely low. The more cards we can drop on the flop the more cards we get to fist up. After drawing the initial seven cards we have only 47 cards left in the deck. Every card we face down during setup allows us to get closer to choking out the opponent on turn one.

Going first is a relevant aspect to choke and the best two cards are Burned and Pillaged and The Sparr. No other cards swing the resource and initiative battle into your favor better. By going first you have first marshalling to play Burned and Pillage and The Sparr. You also have first action after the opponent counts their gold allowing you trigger Ice Fisherman and Cragorn before they have a chance to spend their gold.

To make sure we don’t choke ourselves out of the game Gold Link (TIoR) and Pale Steel Link get workouts by playing one cost characters and attachments that we can’t normally afford. Note that out of house penalties are ignored with the Pale Steel Link.

Be careful when you play White Raven. There are only a couple of cards that directly use the winter mechanic. Most of the time winter is the final nail in the coffin, not a lead off play. You have more ways to handle locations than your opponent can play. Rely on Burned and Pillaged early before transitioning. Winter is a privilege, not a right.

Card Draw
Samwell triggers off of the six ravens in the deck. Ill Tidings can also net you a card if you don’t have power on your house. Bay of Ice (KotS) fits into the scheme of playing high initiative plots and help with the setup phase. The maesters have to do most of the work here by triggering the Valyrian Steel Link (HtS) and Pale Steel Link (FtC) to play Pyromancer's Cache (TWot5K). Card advantage can be gained later in the game with Bronze Link (FtC) if you lose an attachment or two. Recycling Burned and Pillage or White Raven goes a long way. The games are going to be long drawn out affairs if you’re winning.

Character Control
This deck ignores character control for the most part. The game is lost or won by chewing up their resources. The deck leans heavily on character efficiency by playing cheap folks with big butts. The Ancient Mariner, Distinguished Boatswain, and refugees will have to hold down the fort. Hopefully your joustmate can’t marshal anything bigger then you have on the board. The Iron Link gives a strength boost when you need it as well.

Location Control
Just looking at the White Cloak Arsenal should give you an accurate account of resource denial. For the most part targeting locations that give gold or influence is the correct play while dropping the Burned and Pillages on everything else. A turn one Search and Detain bounces either a costly character or Lannisport Treasury to slow their board development.

Pyromancer's Apprentice is a rockstar in this deck. Ice Fisherman and Cragorn steal the extra gold to flip shadow cards during challenges. Doesn't matter how big, limited, or unique the location is, it becomes discard bait.

Attachment Control
The Tin Link (CbtC) is the best attachment control in the game. Ill Tidings can be tutored up with A Time for Ravens for pesky chains or a Black Raven at the right time. Nightmares pulls double duty by blanking maesters, lords, or ladys to strip trait based attachments.

The Wolf Woods
It is important to note how few maesters you have at your disposal. Burn and Venomous Blade will keep you from pulling chains off of the agenda. Your only defense is targeting key locations like Lady Daenerys’s Chambers and Red Keep early. Use Nightmares to blank Red Keep before you send it to the discard pile. Unfortunately there isn’t any way around Threat From the North. Don’t play all of your maesters early. Make sure you have a few in reserves to finish the game. Attack from the Sea is another meta choice. Kneeling influence producers should buy you a turn to start knocking them off.

House Greyjoy
Maester’s Path

Plots
A Time for Ravens
Take Them by Surprise
At the Gates
Attack from the Sea
Schemes of the Scholar
Valar Morghulis
Search and Detain

Characters 30
Maesters
Maester Murenmure x1
Maester Wendamyr x1
Oldtown Scholar x3
The Conclave x2
Maester Aemon x1

Resource Choke
Newly Made Lord x1
The Sparr x1
Ice Fisherman x2
Pyromancer’s Apprentice x2
Cragorn x1
Wintertime Marauders x2

Efficient
Carrion Bird x3
Distinguished Boatswain x3
Ancient Mariner x2
Island Refugee x3

Utility
Samwell x2

Locations 12
River Blockade x1
Bay of Ice x2
Gatehouse x3
Kingdom of Shadows x2\
Aeron’s Chambers x1
Street of Sisters x1
Street of Steel x1
Flea Bottom x1

Attachments 13
Burned and Pillaged x3
White Raven x2
Pyromancer’s Cache x2
Pale Steel Link x1
Tin Link x1
Valyrian Steel Link x1
Gold Link x1
Bronze Link x1
Iron Link x1

Events 5
Support of the Kingdom x2
Nightmares x2
Ill Tidings x1

Jerod Leupold started playing AGOT during the release of Flight of Dragons and declared his allegiance to Greyjoy at an early age. He cut his teeth playing in the MN, MO, and WI regionals trying to build dominant characterless or recursion decks. He has placed first in one lowly attended regional, second in four others, and top eighted in two out the four GenCons he has attended. For one year he was the number one ranked limited player. He currently resides in Iowa City and is proud to be a part of the Knights of the Corn meta.

During the years of 2005-2011 he was the owner and tournament organizer for Critical Hit Games that ran magic events on a weekly basis including being asked to host the state of Iowa championships twice. He has been a tournament player for several ccgs including 7th Sea, L5R, Spoils, and is the current King of the Hill champion of the 2011 GenCon Invasion tournament.
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17 Comments

Great article. This is probably the decktype that worries me most about regionals, and for some reason: bronze link/ pale steel link/ burn and pillage never clicked for me, making it far worse.
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another nasty trick that i used to good effect last regional season was to add WoW Mance Rayder (TWoW). it gives you extra location stealing with a 3 for 3, tricon, king drop. combo him with Copper Link (GotC) link and you have a repeatable location steal every turn. i know it is just more attachments but horn of dragons + copper link is also brutal. you are already limiting how many cards they can play with choke and the ones they do get out you take with copper link and horn of dragons.
Deck looks very interesting. You like it better than Kings of Winter builds? I can see how winter is more of a "nail in the coffin" in this deck. You dont have Kings to activate.
I also really like the Mance fit for this deck. The hardest part is working with less card slots. You have to cram in most of the resource crunchers in Burned and Pillaged, Cragorn, and The Sparr. I think Ice Fisherman is too good to pass up as well.

There is an argument for Mance, Baelor, Wex, Oldtown Raven, and out of house maesters like Defenders of the Last Hearth and Maester of War. Conversely you can run the seas and put in Creylon and Pycelle to up the maester count. I decided to go the small ball direction as it does two things, a) increases my chances for a higher flop count and B) lowers the number of resource cards.

Kings of Winter doesn't directly effect resource choke, therefore you don't need it. It's a great agenda with a minimal drawback. The idea of the agenda works with well with choke because your opponent should keep drawing every turn without being able to play everything. I free intrigue challenge that you always win seems like a great weapon!

That being said, winter could be dropped from the maester choke deck completely if you wanted to by bumping up The Sparr x3, Cragorn x2, Newly Made Lord x2, and Flea Bottom x2. Add seas x3, Tommen x1, Conclave x3, Pycelle x1, and Creylon x1. Drop Samwell, White Raven, Ice Fisherman, Pyromancer's Apprentice, and Wintertime Marauders. A Time for Ravens also gets dropped for plot of your choice. I'd lean towards a turn one Blockade at this point.
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you would have to drop wintertime marauders too though :/
I play greyjoy winter deck can you action all your ice fisherman before they get to spend there gold ? In our group we play that if priority player takes a action then the next player which for means I steal 1 gold. Which is correct sorry if this should be in the forum.
You can only take one action before your opponent can take an action. You are correct that you can only steal one gold before they have a chance to mashal one card.
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HungryHippo
Apr 30 2012 02:38 AM
I wish I had winds of winter to build this deck. :(
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widowmaker93
Apr 30 2012 04:55 AM
T1 First Snow of Winter wrecks this hard, followed by Rule by Decree and things don't look good for you. Also, KotHH is a good hard counter to Choke in that B&P doesn't work. All one would have to do is kill/discard The Sparr and Ice Fisherman and the game gets easier to manage(not hard to do with Threat from the North). Then again, if it were that easy Targ would be the deck winning all the tournaments.
One thing that is good to remember also is that pale steel link bypasses the limited keyword so you can possibly play two B&P on the same turn or a limited location and B&P. This deck thou seems really vulnerable, like comment before me says the reliance on low cost characters make you extra vulnerable for first snow. The lack of apprentice collar makes your low str maester stay in the targs burn range and Meera can be a big problem to this deck since blanking a maester will drop chains and if its winter she can also blank and drop B&P you have played on his location before. Also I wouldn't be too worried on choking yourself as you have good resource base and low gold curve.
This is actually the first of your Jaime-decks that I'm not completely happy about... somehow feels just a bit off the sweet spot.

I feel your trying too much to keep it one-tracked (over-redundant resource denial) and it's forcing your deck to run too many non-Tier 1 cards. Namely: Cragorn and Ancient Mariner... maybe even Ice Fisherman, though that's a close call. I just don't see any argument for running Ancient Mariners over Newly Made Lords, nor for not running at least 1x of either Alannys. And only 2x of Wintertime Marauders, while running Pyromancer's Apprentices?

Additionally, a large portion of Choke effectiveness rises from first closing out their resources and then clearing out their board with Valar... but for some reason you've dropped out the Iron Mines from this deck, which means that if anything happens to Wendamyr/Aegon then all your chains will also get wiped. And Iron Mines are one of the no-brainer cards in GJ that help optimize the setups a lot better than Ancient Mariner ever does.

In a similar vein, I think Attack from the Sea is again a bit redundant, instead of running something like Winter Festival that can help you close out the game faster (without dropping your initiatives down for the Bay of Ice's). Another option is just running Retaliation! or Rise of the Kraken so that you can hammer home when you have the advantage.

PS. How does the interaction between Attack from the Sea and Bay of Ice pan out anyway?
Bay of Ice would trigger I believe, since it should go into effect the minute initiative is determined, right?
Cheers for the answer chaps, my version of choke is more classic winter with more location control. 3 newly made lords 2 price of war and 3 support kingdoms, in our meta its good as for regional I have no idea how's its going to pan out. Our regional for UK is 20th may near me
Re: Bay of Ice/Attack from the Sea, they both resolve in Step 4 of the framework, but there is a rule that says that When Revealeds are before passives, so you would not get to draw from Bay of Ice on Attack from the Sea.
That's also how I would have thought it goes, which further puzzles me about Attack from the Sea in there.
Definitely enjoyed seeing a sample deck built around the choke concept. Great comments too.