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The White Book S7E06- 230

The White Book Podcast Kennon Pulseglazer Tcmmy

This week, Will, Aaron, Tommy, and special guest Patrick have preview cards and play a game to examine the state of the meta at large.

Music by Spinozar
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PulseGlazer
Dec 18 2015 11:31 AM
What does everyone think of the top deck discussion? What'd we hit on? Miss?

My opinion, deliberately ignoring stats:

 

Baratheon: Rose

Greyjoy: Rose

Lannister: Rose

Martell: Rose

Night's Watch: Rose

Stark: Rose

Targaryen: Rose

Tyrell: Rose

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Almost as inventive as my choices!
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PulseGlazer
Dec 18 2015 03:42 PM
What a rosy outlook.
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Editing as I go along:
Enjoying the game segment, kept the pace (and focus) nicely. I kept waiting for Aaron to yell at someone for being wrong, though...

 

Tyrell/Sun only made the cut 4 times (but Tyrell only 8, hence the overrepresentation) can be found (and a link to the deck) for this tournament: https://docs.google....#gid=1181882872

And here: https://docs.google....#gid=2063599727

And here: https://docs.google....#gid=1676408207

And here (with deck): https://docs.google....t#gid=297264289

 

Aaron: Dixit is quite good, it's one of my favourite games to buy/bring for families (kids and up). SU&SD recommends "Mysterium" as a "better" version, but I haven't had a chance to play.

great episode !

Not sure why The PSA was needed, but obviously someone was being an @sshole somewhere and needs to stop !

Enjoy your break

Oh and Star Wars was AMAZING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Danger Zone !!!!

Check out Randyll's Revenge on Thronesdb.com. It is a very solid Martell/Rose build here in the Seattle area that has been performing extremely well. It took 2nd and 3rd in a couple of 20+ player tournaments. Built by Jim H.

@Jensen22: you mean Tyrell/sun.

Yes yes. You're right.
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PulseGlazer
Dec 19 2015 03:50 AM

Oh, and since I wasn't playing the game portion on the cast, here are my original guesses:

 

1. Bara Fealty

2. GJ Sun

3. Lanny Rose

4. Martell Rose

5. Night's Watch Sun

6. Stark Lion

7. Targ Fealty

8. Tyrell Lion

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PulseGlazer
Dec 19 2015 02:50 PM

Our spoilers, along with an awesome one from Team Covenant, are up on the facebook page!

And they're up on the main post linked above on our site!

I am sad that Aaron was not able to read out his PSA. We spent a lot of time perfecting it. ;)

 

More thoughts when I finish the cast. But, Aaron, am I really "erstwhile?" :D

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PulseGlazer
Dec 19 2015 09:07 PM

No, you're... ahem... worst while!  #mirite?

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TheJunkie42
Dec 19 2015 10:05 PM

What was the "wolf deck" you said was going to be very strong?

What was the "wolf deck" you said was going to be very strong?


Likely Lanni-Wolf.
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Finished the episode while cooking dinner last night. It was a fantastic one. Patrick makes a great co-host. I hope you have him on again and often.

 

But I have to disagree with both Will (on the cast) and James (above) and say that the best banner for everyone house is Lion. Lannister's non-loyal cards are so very above curve, the only competitor is Bara, that they provide so much flexibility to any house at the moment. The only prime-faction that really has a lot of flexibility in banners is Lannister itself. Here I think the Dragon works very well, particularly the White Book build. ;)

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PulseGlazer
Dec 21 2015 02:46 AM

Lanny Dragon apparently struggles more than most Lanny with NW. Who knew.

Finished the episode while cooking dinner last night. It was a fantastic one. Patrick makes a great co-host. I hope you have him on again and often.
 
But I have to disagree with both Will (on the cast) and James (above) and say that the best banner for everyone house is Lion. Lannister's non-loyal cards are so very above curve, the only competitor is Bara, that they provide so much flexibility to any house at the moment. The only prime-faction that really has a lot of flexibility in banners is Lannister itself. Here I think the Dragon works very well, particularly the White Book build. ;)


It's an interesting point. I think the problem with banner of the Lion is missing out on the in-faction synergies. This is related to an idea I want to privately pitch as subject matter for a future episode, so I'll say no more for now :)
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chunkygorillas
Dec 21 2015 05:17 PM

Maybe I misheard, but on the cast you said if you put Crown of Gold on a 5 str character and had Danny, that character would just be useless with 0 str, but wouldn't that kill the character since the Crown of Gold kills them if the str is 0. Or does it not work like that?

Maybe I misheard, but on the cast you said if you put Crown of Gold on a 5 str character and had Danny, that character would just be useless with 0 str, but wouldn't that kill the character since the Crown of Gold kills them if the str is 0. Or does it not work like that?

 

No, what they meant was useless at 1str (since if it participated in any challenges against the player with Dany, it'd drop to 0 and die). Functionally the character has to sit out all challenges. On the bright side, it gets protected from Plaza of Punishment!

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chunkygorillas
Dec 22 2015 01:43 AM

O right, I forgot how Danny works. Thanks!

One thing I was curious about - Martell Lion. I can't see how Martell Lion isn't just worse than Lanni Sun.

You gain options of Doran, Traders, Viper, Doran's Game, Ghaston Grey, Long Plan with Martell. Some of those aren't even good cards.

With Lanni you gain options of Tywin, Cersei, Pycelle, Lannisport, Casterly Rock, and on top of this it is much easier to trigger/include Treachery and TTIDFL. All of these are good cards.

And the cards in the next pack don't change this any, with Lanni gaining their plot and Martell cards both being non loyal.

I feel like as a Martell player I am still waiting for more good loyal cards for them.
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PulseGlazer
Dec 22 2015 12:25 PM
Largely because ghaston is that good and synergizes really really well with tidfl in minicurve.
I would second that GG is really good. It and TIDFL give you such fantastic board control when paired. And really, triple Tyrion and Jaime plus a couple Joffrey make those events still pretty easy to play.