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The White Book S7E38 – 262

Podcast Kennon RedViper

Transitions! With the changing seasons come many other changes. This week, Patrick and Will build a Kings of Summer deck!
Music by Spinozar
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14 Comments

Honour or Honor? This will factor heavily in which episodes I listen to.

 

Aaron brought a fresh perspective and was responsible for some really top-notch episodes in the early 2.0 game that are extremely praise-worthy. When the efforts of the meta trended to Bara, he helped drive Lannister forward as a solution. His deckbuilding was really instrumental in developing the early meta-game, and his authoritative voice helped a lot (even if it was just to force me, a contrarian, to try and prove him wrong - and usually fail).

 

But when he started enjoying things less (or being less willing to try to go against the meta, or propose solutions to the problems he was seeing whatever the cause), the casts began to get tiring. It's not that he can't object to the direction of the game, or organized play, or disagree with me - but there has to be an acknowledgement that people tuning into a cast every week for their hobby will tire of hearing someone moan about it. I will admit, however uncharitably, that I'm glad to see Aaron go - although I hope he returns if/when he finds he enjoys things again!

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Honor, alas. I'd choose the prior if I had the wiggle room, but I do believe that Martin uses the American spellings.

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PulseGlazer
Sep 10 2016 12:15 AM

I don't think I play Thrones anymore.

With regard to the deck, I agree with Patrick on the Arbor.

No Milk of the Poppy? Usually challenge based kill is what hurts Tyrell badly, especially Mirri given that the deck is relatively weak on intrigue (Renly will help a lot with that to be fair).

Also, since I can't publish the deck on ThronesDB yet, here it is in text form!
 

 

TWB Episode 262
House Tyrell

Kings of Summer

Draw deck: 61 cards
Plot deck: 7 cards
Packs: Lions of Casterly Rock, Core Set (3), Taking the Black, The Road to Winterfell, The King's Peace, No Middle Ground, Wolves of the North, True Steel, Across the Seven Kingdoms, Called to Arms
Plot (7)

1x  A Song of Summer
1x  A Tourney for the King
1x  Calm Over Westeros
1x  Close Call
1x  Confiscation
2x  Summer Harvest
Character (33)

1x  Alerie Tyrell
3x  Arbor Knight
1x  Butterbumps
3x  Garden Caretaker
3x  Hedge Knight
3x  Knight of Summer
1x  Littlefinger
3x  Margaery Tyrell
2x  Olenna's Informant
1x  Paxter Redwyne
3x  Randyll Tarly
2x  Rattleshirt's Raiders
1x  Ser Colen of Greenpools
1x  Ser Hobber Redwyne
1x  Ser Horas Redwyne
3x  The Knight of Flowers
1x  The Queen of Thorns
Attachment (5)

1x  Heartsbane
2x  Little Bird
1x  Mare in Heat
1x  Seal of the Hand
Location (14)

2x  Pleasure Barge
3x  Rose Garden
1x  Street of the Sisters
3x  The Arbor
1x  The Iron Throne
3x  The Kingsroad
1x  The Mander
Event (9)

2x  Growing Strong
3x  Lady Sansa's Rose
2x  Superior Claim
2x  Support of the People

Honour or Honor? This will factor heavily in which episodes I listen to.
 
Aaron brought a fresh perspective and was responsible for some really top-notch episodes in the early 2.0 game that are extremely praise-worthy. When the efforts of the meta trended to Bara, he helped drive Lannister forward as a solution. His deckbuilding was really instrumental in developing the early meta-game, and his authoritative voice helped a lot (even if it was just to force me, a contrarian, to try and prove him wrong - and usually fail).
 
But when he started enjoying things less (or being less willing to try to go against the meta, or propose solutions to the problems he was seeing whatever the cause), the casts began to get tiring. It's not that he can't object to the direction of the game, or organized play, or disagree with me - but there has to be an acknowledgement that people tuning into a cast every week for their hobby will tire of hearing someone moan about it. I will admit, however uncharitably, that I'm glad to see Aaron go - although I hope he returns if/when he finds he enjoys things again!


Definitely agree with this.
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Desertspiral
Sep 12 2016 01:57 AM

Hi guys, where are you guys referencing the Lanni box cards from ?

Just an xcel sheet or are they on cardgamedb yet ?

The should be up on ThronesDB and on the Four The Watch blog on Board Game Geek at the moment.

I definitely agree on 3x Arbor. My biggest issue with the deck is that you accidentally seemed to click on Kings of Summer instead of Lord of the Crossing...

When playing Crossing, Mare in Heat tended to take care of miri as long as she did not get stealth from Syrio. Sad you only found room for one, but I am having a hard time finding what to cut. My biggest concern is Winterfell. Winterfell turns of Rose, turns off Mare, turns off Standy-Randy, turns off the Queen. You cannot have winter plots, and are not running Nightmares. So much of the tech of Tyrell can be beaten by that one card.  

Also, I am starting to think that x3 Rattleshirts need to be in every deck. Craven, Ward, and Martell are annoying enough that you need to get the solution out all the time.

first Goose then Darryl, now Arron.....the Danger Zone has claimed some of my favourites

 

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Hmmm... fair point that Winterfell is a bit trickier for this deck to play around as is. I suppose the best strategy is probably to try not to put all of your eggs in one basket challenge wise, but that could be harder to pull off in practice than I'd like. I wonder, perhaps, if it's worth considering either Nightmares as you mentioned or Put to the Torch. Sure, you'd need to try to fake them out to sucker them into a Winterfell play on a different challenge but....

 

 

Ah, who am I kidding? That's too convoluted. Nightmares is the more direct solution to knock it out and have a killer turn of power gain, which is really what this deck wants.

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Played around with a Tyrell Wolf deck last night. Tried to use Old Nann as a anti-Winterfell counter. She got Ice'd ASAP. I am thinking Summer with 3 nightmares might be the way to go.

Honour or Honor? This will factor heavily in which episodes I listen to.

 

Aaron brought a fresh perspective and was responsible for some really top-notch episodes in the early 2.0 game that are extremely praise-worthy. When the efforts of the meta trended to Bara, he helped drive Lannister forward as a solution. His deckbuilding was really instrumental in developing the early meta-game, and his authoritative voice helped a lot (even if it was just to force me, a contrarian, to try and prove him wrong - and usually fail).

 

But when he started enjoying things less (or being less willing to try to go against the meta, or propose solutions to the problems he was seeing whatever the cause), the casts began to get tiring. It's not that he can't object to the direction of the game, or organized play, or disagree with me - but there has to be an acknowledgement that people tuning into a cast every week for their hobby will tire of hearing someone moan about it. I will admit, however uncharitably, that I'm glad to see Aaron go - although I hope he returns if/when he finds he enjoys things again!

 

Too soon, too soon.