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Beyond the Wall, Season 1 Episode 9
Mar 31 2014 03:00 AM |
istaril
in Game of Thrones
Beyond the Wall Podcast Istaril Darknoj orclrob FAQ Game of Thrones
Click here for the podcast.In this week's episode, Istaril and Darknoj discuss some more regionals news and the podcast challenge set by Nate French: we have a winner! Following a technical glitch of their recording with orclrob, they enlist Gencon overall champion Steven S. to discuss the upcomming FAQ. Together, and with some great ideas carrying over from the lost recording, they hammer out their FAQ expectations/wishlist. They focus balance FAQ/errata, but for rules fixes and other proposed FAQ issues, check out Istaril's thread here.
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I've always felt like the American and European meta are quite different: you guys are afraid that Greyjoy and Stark might become very powerful with the restriction of hard control, but to me, here in my local meta, Lannisters are really strong right now, even with all this hard control.
I don't think the purpose of the balance portion of the FAQ is to neuter every strong deck (although that does tend to be how we see it!) and let new ones emerge, but rather to
1) Nudge the meta away from stagnation (and I actually think this meta has been anything but stagnant at the deck level, although it has been a bit at the archetype level)
2) Fix broken aspects, like the Bran combo
3) Revitalize the game just by forcing us to take another good hard look at the card pool.
That said, I'm really hoping (and expecting) this one to take it a step further and address a growing concern with a negative play experience. Not because it's an NPE, because that varies per person, but because the long-stall games actually cause tournament problems with games regularly going to time, and secondly they de-emphasize the challenge phase the game was built around, devaluing a large portion of the card pool and design effort.
So for me, Lannisters ar far more dangereous than GJ or Stark if the next FAQ hits hard control decks.
And thank you, Steve. Now you and I are the two that want DM gone.
However in the current meta, it is such an efficient fuel for the character lite, KoTHH decks that I think it is warranted for possible inclusion.
However I have the same issue with the designers' refusal to fix the damn Viper's Bannermen so they don't have to continually restrict cards they had no concept of printing back when the Bannermen came out. So I guess I won't be surprised if they restrict DM/MaM, but it will reflect a continued insistence on not fixing the root of the problem.
I think the Bara recursion dilemma is definitely a thorny one to address correctly. We need a solution that tones down the Army recursion KotHH build without destroying the other Bara archetypes that would simply die without that recursion. Let's not forget that last year, Bara was almost universally considered the worst house. While the KotHH deck can be pretty ridiculous, balancing this so that Bara doesn't just return back to its lackluster status is important.
If you restrict both Westeros Bleeds AND Favorable Ground, you force deckbuilders to choose their reset path and eliminate the reset-crazy Limited decks and you'd confine those cards to very specific builds (and soft-ban them in practically every other build... but honestly, prior to the end of last year, those cards had not seen much play... at least not since 2012 when I started). Maybe that's too far, but it would go a long way to helping ensure people continue to play the game centered back onto the Challenge phase again.
Would not making SwiS work solely on neutral and Bara chars / armies be more sensible than restricting RQF? Do we really think SwiS was designed to cheat OOH armies and knights into play? (This from someone who loves this deck!)