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Beyond the Wall, Season 2 Episode 3
Feb 09 2015 04:00 AM |
istaril
in Game of Thrones
Beyond the Wall Istaril Darknoj Ingrid H. Bill A Deckbuilding Spreadsheet Batalla por el Muro Aloof & Apart Podcast AGOT
Click here for the podcast.Since we had to record early last week, we've got two weekends's worth of news to report on - including a truckload of store championship results. We feature the author of the newest Thrones spreadsheet, Bill A., to talk about his project and walk us through it's use. Following that with something a little less technical, we have an exclusive interview with the first player to win a (reported) tournament with A&A. Unfortunately, that's Darknoj. Finally, we bring on Ingrid H. to tell us about the upcoming "Batalla por el Muro" happening mid-march in Madrid.
Relevant links:
FFG's response to the SW LCG Open Letter
Details to join the skype group
Bill's Spreadsheet
Jon's Decklist (see comments below as well)
Battle for the Wall (Batalla por el Muro)
Erratum:
Menno, winner of the Field of Fire, was running Castellan as his restricted - not negotiations.
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19 Comments
Jon's Winning Deck:
Thanks for the deck Jon. Used it on Saturday at our SC. I did not win. I lost to a LIV2 deck with a nasty plot line (First Snow -> Fear of Winter -> RBD), it hurts this deck pretty badly and I did not draw a HCIT for the the Orkmont Reaver (? character kill) out on turn 1. My other loss was a mirror match that was very close and very intense.
I did add Betrayal at the Wall to the plot deck, but no other changes.
I've heard of people using First Snow -> Aftermath -> RBD as well
Erratum (added above): Menno, the Lanni DWDW that took Field of Fire, was running Castellan, not negotiations.
That would not hurt this Martell deck nearly as much as the Fear of Winter version. But I can see how that might be rough on other decks and still leave LIV2 decks open for other restricted cards.
That Men of Pride makes me nervous. It removes the "No attachments" from your armies.
I think the Men of Pride is there to remove the Prized drawback from the armies as well, but in the world of the Favor, it can be a risky proposition!
The 4-0-2 is about timing. It's a Valar counter and with your Kingsroad, make them first.
Yeah, against Bara N/A, you would generally drop it either Plot 1 (hopefully they don't have a favor yet, and you control who you marshall) or win before having to drop it.
Jon, what is your opinion on the War-Crest Viper for this deck?
I used a list very similar to yours (the mirror-match Alex mentioned was with me), but one of the big changes I made was to use the War-Crest version. I found him to be insanely strong, providing 3 claim challenges very easily -OR- putting my opponent in a spot where they can't afford to initiate challenges against me. He also gets around kneel (Lanni and Cities) fairly well. I rarely had fewer characters than my opponent, and could never see a time where I would have preferred the PotS Viper. I mean, he is amazing, but I just like the War-Crest version better for this deck.
I also slotted in 1x Price of War, which either handles problem locations or makes your opponent use their Harrenhall, making your effective claim bump up to the 3-5 range on a MIL challenge.
Aha! Finally, I can post during the day!
Anyway, yeah, I'm with Kizer on the war crest Viper. Having playing my version of AA at Tulsa, it seems like the aggro heavy direction that the deck leans favors the extra offensive potential of that Viper.
Also have to agree that Price of War would have been nice in my deck. Iron Throne is the pits for such a character draw centric deck.
First change i made when i got home was to drop the power of blood add in a price of war, change vipers and get 2x price of war into the deck instead of the paper shields.
So my general thought is that the war crest viper for this deck is the way to go.
I actually won the Lafayette IN store championship last weekend with a summer Martell aloof that was super similar to this, only instead of the non-VBM, no attachments armies, I splashed a who's who of out of house helpers (Melisandre was particularly amazing one game) and some more icon manipulation. I took a risk of low to no Baratheon and it paid off.
I also ran Tyene, I know a lot people don't like her, but when she is sitting on the table for a To the Spears! or Valor, it's just unnerving.
No Kneel Viper was a life saver for me one game, but I've always been partial to the other one and will have to try that route in testing! Nice idea
Tyene would have been in mine, but she was, unfortunately, not yet legal.
Tyene was indeed in mine. Great threat of activation card.
She wasn't in mine, but I was running 4x 2 claim plots, and often had claim 3/4 challenges with Arianne and TRV so she just didn't fit.
Can you elaborate on the circumstances?