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Crimson and Gold - Now My Watch Begins
Dec 05 2013 06:15 AM |
scantrell24
in Game of Thrones
Small Council Crimson and Gold scantrell24
Welcome back, and thanks for diving into another Crimson and Gold. First, if you’re not aware, here are the winning Houses and Agendas from the last six major Thrones tournaments:Gencon 2012: Stark Kings of Winter
Worlds 2012: Targ KotHH
Stahleck 2012: Greyjoy Maester’s
Gencon 2013: Martell No Agenda
Worlds 2013: Lanni No Agenda
Stahleck 2013: Bara KotHH
Notice anything about that list? That’s right – every House is represented exactly once! I’ll give some props to FFG for bringing parity to the game. Recent chapter packs and changes to the restricted list have put us in a great position where every House stands a fighting chance.
If you haven’t stumbled across Stahleck results yet, here are some decklists/reports from the top 32 and streamed games from the Top 16 and Top 4.
Stark No Agenda 33rd Place
Bara Knights of the Realm Top 32
Targ KotHH Top 32
Greyjoy Song of Ice Top 32
Greyjoy Black Sails Top 32
Martell KotHH Top 32
Matell KotHH Top 16
Lanni PBtT Top 16
Targ Dothraki Top 16
Targ KotHH Top 16
Targ KotHH Top 16
Stark Knights Top 8
Targ KotHH Top 4
Targ Maesters 2nd Place
Bara KotHH 1st Place
Night’s Watch
I’ll be upfront with ya’ll – I’ve only played about 10 games either with or against a Night’s Watch deck, so I’m no expert in this field. I’m going to explain my card choices, and if you disagree with any of those decisions I’d love to discuss alternative ideas in the comments.
Agendas
The Rangers (WotN)
The Stewards (AKitN)
The Builders (ASitD)
Each agenda increases your required power to win by two. In return, all of your Night’s Watch characters will gain an icon, potentially turning them into versatile tricons if you run all three agendas. In addition, each agenda decreases the cost of Defenders of the North (AKitN) by one, meaning this uber-army could be as cheap as 4 gold. If any of the three is expendable I’d say it’s The Builders because Eastwatch Envoy and many Lannister characters already have power icons, but that’s a tough call. I’ll be testing both with and without it.
Plots
Betrayal at the Wall is a thing of beauty. It almost always wins initiative, so we can be first player and then Cersei's Scheme or an aggressive two-claim plot. We can make our opponent first player and then reveal Search and Detain to bounce his biggest threat. Or, if our opponent reveals something nasty like Mel’s Scheme, First Snow, or To the Spears!, we can flip Forgotten Plans to crush their hopes and dreams. Art of Seduction could come in handy as well.
The Draw Engine
This is a Lannister deck after all, so we’ve got access to Golden Tooth Mines and Tommen, but that’s just a starting point. Old Bear's Crow (TGM) boosts our Night’s Watch characters, but he’s also a Raven, so Samwell Tarly (TRS) fits naturally, along with Carrion Birds and the Black Raven. Since it’s Summertime, The Kingsroad 29 (FaI) and Gilly (RoW) will round out our draw engine nicely. These Summer effects make A Song of Ice a tough matchup of course, but it’s results at Worlds and Stahleck were less than stellar, so I’m not too worried.
The Restricted Card
The candidates on my short list are Search and Detain (HtS) and Negotiations at the Great Sept (TPoL). If you don’t want to use Samwell for draw then Pyromancer's Cache (TWot5K) becomes a logical alternative. If you have trouble repopulating the board after Valar then Narrow Escape (KotStorm) is an option, but it takes up valuable event slots, and Lanni decks already have enough trouble choosing between several excellent event options. If you want to be more aggressive then consider Retaliation! (ASoSilence) or Fear of Winter (BtW).
My Current Decklist
Total Cards: (50)
House:
Neutral Faction
Agenda: (2)
1x The Rangers (WotN)
1x The Stewards (AKitN)
Plot: (8)
1x A City Besieged (CD)
1x City of Soldiers (TBoBB)
1x Betrayal at the Wall (THTW)
1x Cersei's Scheme (TPoL)
1x A Song of Summer (ASoS)
1x A Time for Ravens (ACoS)
1x Search and Detain (HtS)
1x Valar Morghulis (Core)
Character: (23)
2x Carrion Bird (ASoS)
3x Ranger of the Watch (WotN)
2x Steward of the Watch (AKitN)
3x Defenders of the North (AKitN)
1x Gilly (RoW)
1x Maester Aemon (Core)
1x Stonesnake (BtW)
1x Coldhands (RotO)
2x Samwell Tarly (TRS)
2x Old Bear's Crow (TGM)
1x Tommen Baratheon (SA)
1x Varys (SaS)
1x Ser Arys Oakheart (PotS)
1x Qyburn (SaS)
1x Cersei Lannister (LotR)
3x Janos's Conspirator (THTW)
3x Eastwatch Envoy (THTW)
1x Ygritte (THTW)
Attachment: (5)
1x Longclaw (ASitD)
1x First Ranger (TBC)
1x Enslaved (THoBaW)
2x Black Raven (ASoS)
Event: (4)
2x Nightmares (LoW)
2x A House Divided (WLL)
3x Secret Orders (THTW)
Location: (18)
1x Sunset Sea (Core)
3x The Goldroad (Core)
1x River Row (QoD)
1x The Gift (EB)
1x The Roseroad (KotStorm)
3x The Kingsroad 23 (FaI)
1x The Shadow Tower (TWH)
3x Pentoshi Manor (AHM)
2x The Iron Throne (LotR)
2x Golden Tooth Mines (Core)
The Pros
Eastwatch Envoy is a 2 for 3 tricon with stealth and a naval enhancement on every icon
Janos’s Conspirator is a cheaper version of Enemy Informer
Betrayal at the Wall is super versatile
Secret Orders and City of Soldiers are so much fun together
The Cons
Ygritte punks this deck pretty hard
Economy is tricky because Street of Steel, Shadowblack, Sisters and Sunset Sea don’t work on most of your NW characters
Summer makes bullsh*t like Dragon Knight even scarier
19 or 21 power is a lot. You might have to include power rush jank like Men of Honor
Conclusion
Thanks for reading, and please leave some feedback below. Is Lanni Night's Watch a thing now? What improvements would you make? Next time I'll look at the other side of the same coin: Wildlings! Until then, always remember that you have a responsibility to trigger your response abilities!
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19 Comments
And the deck is only 50 cards
But what does that have to do with the 2012 worlds result? lol @ coincidental statistics...
That's my cue to ravage this place (hehehe), so without further ado:
I've heard Joffrey makes a pretty decent tricon. What about a little more Mance, blanking agendas is great and who cares about that one copy of Tommen? I know that Betrayal + S&D looks super fancy and stuff but it's not really good enough to fill in your restricted slot. You have exactly one card that can discard locations and that's not gonna end well against Lanni no agenda. Golden Tooth Mines or bust, three of em please. Also, 16 non-setup cards? (I counted Ygritte and the wrong version of Coldhands as such.)
No.
Better question: Is Night's Watch a thing now?
No.
And yet an even better question: Why?
Ygritte, resets, A House Divided.
Best question ever: Same goes for Wildlings?
Yep.
I'm compelled to agree, feels kinda weird...
ps: shameless self-like
there are 60 cards. it's just the totals are wrong :s
House Lannister
Rangers
Stewards
Betrayal at the Wall
A City Besieged
A City of Soldiers
Cersei's Scheme
Valar Morghulis
Search and Detain
A Time for Ravens
A Song of Summer
2 Carrion Bird
3 Ranger of the Watch
2 Steward of the Watch
3 Janos's Conspirator
3 Eastwatch Envoy
3 Defenders of the North
1 Gilly
1 Maester Aemon
1 Stonesnake
1 Coldhands
2 Old Bear's Crow
2 Samwell Tarly
1 Tommen Baratheon
1 Janos Slynt
1 Varys
1 Ygritte
1 Ser Arys Oakheart
1 Qyburn
1 Cersei Lannister
1 Sunset Sea
3 Goldroad
1 River Row
1 The Gift
3 Kingsroad
1 The Shadow Tower
3 Pentoshi Manor
2 The Iron Throne
2 Golden Tooth Mines
1 Longclaw
1 First Ranger
1 Enslaved
2 Black Raven
2 Nightmares
2 A House Divided
3 Secret Orders
31 Characters
17 Locations
5 Attachments
7 Events
What would you drop for Mance? He doesn't seem all that special to me - just a 3 for 3 tricon that will slightly accelerate the win condition.
I personally don't care for The Shadow Tower too much.
Yeah, Summer isn't essential, it's just an efficient draw engine. Jaime & Kingsguard could work as well.
I'm running an extra Iron Throne to deal with Ygritte.
I'd rather not add more Season cards since I'm not using A Song of Fire obviously, although re-using Tommen is tempting.
Has anyone been encountering a lot of Song of Ice/Fire decks? If so, how often? 1 out of 4 games? out of 5? out of 10?
Right now it's been 1 out of more than 10 for me.
As for the power increase, I'd throw in some Formal Petitions to lower your win condition.
No! wait! I dunno what to say to that.