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Beyond the Wall, Season 2 Episode 43

Beyond the Wall Podcast Istaril Darknoj Danny Schaefer Red Saturday AGOT

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It's finally here! No, not the Stahleck-sode (that's next week, we think), but almost as good. We go over some tournament news, with Darknoj singing the praises of Red Saturday, as well as draw the seven winners for our 1000 facebook likes giveaway! We then talk in a little more detail about the decks we took (or would have taken, in Istaril's case), include a handy tip of the week, and finally give you an interview with Thrones 2.0 designer/developer Danny Schaefer. See how we snuck that in there? It's a chance to get to know the new guy, and we're impressed! Finally, we wrap up with some closing comments.

Relevant links:
- The Annals of Castle Black (Data Collection)
- The prizes for the draw (details IN-cast only)
- Darknoj's Decklist (6th): Tyrell/Lion (See Comments)
- Istaril's would-have-been decklist: Night's Watch/Sun.

Errata:
None (yet).

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Darknoj's Decklist:
 

House Tyrell
 
Agenda
1x Banner of the Lion
 
Characters
2x Arbor Knight
2x Left
3x Margaery Tyrell
3x Randyll Tarly
2x Right
3x The Knight of Flowers
3x Garden Caretaker
2x Olenna's Informant
1x Ser Jaime Lannister
3x Tyrion Lannister
1x Lannisport Moneylender
2x Lannisport Merchant
2x The Hound
1x The Tickler
2x Paxter Redwyne
2x Wardens of the Reach
 
Locations
1x The Mander
3x Rose Garden
2x Highgarden
3x The Kingsroad
3x The Roseroad
 
Events
3x Growing Strong
2x Support of the People
1x Put to the Sword
2x Treachery
1x Tears of Lys
1x Olenna's Cunning
 
Attachments
2x Heartsbane
2x Widow's Wail
 
Plots
1x Calm Over Westeros
1x Confiscation
1x Jousting Contest
1x A Clash of Kings
2x Summons
1x Calling the Banners
    • vszeus, BlueHill, KruppSteel and 1 other like this

Didn't even know there was a new guy. Looking forward to listening!

Thanks for another great cast, as well as the decklist!

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PulseGlazer
Nov 30 2015 09:56 PM
Fun list! If change 4 cards, but really good stuff.
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Man, I was really hoping for a lot more Red Saturday/meta talk. And I know I won't get it next week either :( But great interview and good job with the cast despite hectic lives.

@PulseGlazer - What would you add/change, exactly?

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PulseGlazer
Dec 01 2015 02:52 AM
2 milk for gj, 2 seal, cut a growing, cunning, rose garden... Run 61 line winners do.
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PulseGlazer
Dec 01 2015 02:52 AM

That isn't Jon's deck anyway - he ended up running Pleasure Barge.

    • darknoj and KruppSteel like this

Was curious if he had the love boat or not, cheers!

I did not hear my name in the list of winners. RECOUNT!
    • kizerman86 and fauxintel like this

Well, we have one small but fine tourney going on this weekend with 20+ attendees. Just wanted to throw that in.

 

Anyway, nice cast (as always) and nice interview. Welcome Danny, I hope you will feel comfortable in the Thrones community.

I second in loving to hear some more stories from the actual Red Saturday tourney, but I guess the other cast will cover this in full length. ;)

 

Last but not least: Get well soon!

2 milk for gj, 2 seal, cut a growing, cunning, rose garden... Run 61 line winners do.

I actually run 62 in my Tryrell-Lanni :P

    • PulseGlazer likes this

i cut 1 support and something else for the pleasure barge but that list is close ;)

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Beyond the Wall moving in on Banter Behind the Throne's "Spice Girls talk" gimmick? Outrageous!

Beyond the Wall moving in on Banter Behind the Throne's "Spice Girls talk" gimmick? Outrageous!

 

You think Jon, who brought that up, listens to other casts? 

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You think Jon, who brought that up, listens to other casts? 

http://www.cardgamed...9#commentsStart

 

"i was gone listen but now that i wont find out any news on baby spice i think i will have to pass. ;)

 

fun episode as always guys."

 

I thought you guys have integrity.

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http://www.cardgamed...9#commentsStart

 

"i was gone listen but now that i wont find out any news on baby spice i think i will have to pass. ;)

 

fun episode as always guys."

 

I thought you guys have integrity.

 

 

I'm shocked. Jon doesn't even listen to me on our own cast. "Jon, we went over this rules interaction you misplayed ON the cast. Yesterday. Why are you ... *sigh*". 

To find out he's actually been cheating on Beyond the Wall with Banter... I feel used. Betrayed. 

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First Jon steals Aaron's 2c1c topics of conversation, and now this? I remember when this podcast had standards.

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Don't feel bad Hynes.  Two Wildings and a Wall is still the best podcast.

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Great cast, guys, and a fantastic interview. I briefly got to meet Danny at Worlds and he seemed like a very nice guy and his discussion here confirmed that. Glad to hear that Nate is getting some additional input in the design process. It can only help things as the game moves forward.

 

But, since FFG hired someone to help Nate with Thrones, does that mean Nate might be on the L5R design team? Such an addition would make me even more excited for the relaunch.

 

It was great to see Jon last weekend and I thank you both for keeping my terrible game with Noj in the second round out of the cast. ;) And Alex, you were much missed.

Man, I was really hoping for a lot more Red Saturday/meta talk. And I know I won't get it next week either :( But great interview and good job with the cast despite hectic lives.

 

Seth: if you wanted a read of the meta you should have taken the trip. ;)

 

But for you here's my read of things from RS. There was a solid amount of GJ floating around in the middle ranks of the tournament. It seems that some variant of the Kraken (either fealty or otherwise) is the "gear check" of the Taking the Black meta - either you can reliably beat it or you're chances of making into the top 16, much less the cut, is low.

 

There was a lot more Lannister on RS than there was at Worlds and that Lannister did quite well (2 prime house in the cut, 1 banner, and obviously Aaron won). The question is: is RS at all representive of the broader meta in this regard? A lot of New Yorkers play Lannister (we were known as a Targ favored meta in 1.0, the Lions may become NYC sigil for 2.0). However, my belief is that Lannister is much stronger than its showing at Worlds would suggest. Obviously we've had only 2 high level tournments for 2.0 in North America, so things will be developing. But I do think Lanni is the house to watch.

 

The other house to watch is Tyrell. The impact of Sam's win at World's, to me at least, was not proving that Martell is viable as a prime house but, rather, showing that Tyrell is strong - as both a banner and a prime house. Aaron's victory here gives us more evidence there. Same with Noj's strong showing. I think we will be seeing a lot of the Rose as we move into early 2016. Particulary if your median player continues to drift towards GJ. Tyrell has a lot of answers to the Kraken's tricks (including Alex's favs Left and Right).

 

Of course, y'all are free to take this with a grain of salt. I'd love to hear Jon's read and I'm sure we'll get Aarons in a few days.

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PulseGlazer
Dec 02 2015 11:46 PM
Seth Low! If you want to know the Meta, come on The White Book to talk about it!
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OldShrimpEyes
Dec 03 2015 02:29 PM
Alex if Jon leaves you for Christmas you can come and join us for some Banter Beyond the Wall. Also, Jon is in my bad books. He knew what he was doing with that Spice Girl skit.
    • darknoj, istaril, kennish and 1 other like this

Any hints for plaing the Tyrell/Lanni deck? I liked the idea behind the deck and played a couple games (8), but lost most of them.

 

Any advice for me? :)